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A lot of us are in jitters over the preview of Episode 11, and this may alleviate fears or make them worse, depending on what you're thinking...
The Battle of Narita
The Order of Black Knights has successfully isolated Cornelia's unit in the Narita mountain range. Lelouch jumps into the fray and order Cornelia to surrender, but she fights on, ready to lose life and limb. Suzaku's Lancelot joins the fight and the Order is forced to retreat once more. Suzaku chases after Zero, but he is prevented from doing so with CC's previously unknown power. His mind is eroded with CC's power, and in the midst of nightmarish imagery, Suzaku meets his dead father.
....reading these do so dampen the enjoyment, but damn. That preview IS cheating. D:
I did suspect her to hinder Suzaku, since she did seem to be distrusting him...but whether he gets something weird or not afterwards is still up in the air. D: There's the title of Ep..14, IIRC? To think about.
The Battle of Narita
The Order of Black Knights has successfully isolated Cornelia's unit in the Narita mountain range. Lelouch jumps into the fray and order Cornelia to surrender, but she fights on, ready to lose life and limb. Suzaku's Lancelot joins the fight and the Order is forced to retreat once more. Suzaku chases after Zero, but he is prevented from doing so with CC's previously unknown power. His mind is eroded with CC's power, and in the midst of nightmarish imagery, Suzaku meets his dead father.
....reading these do so dampen the enjoyment, but damn. That preview IS cheating. D:
I did suspect her to hinder Suzaku, since she did seem to be distrusting him...but whether he gets something weird or not afterwards is still up in the air. D: There's the title of Ep..14, IIRC? To think about.
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Not really...lol! Confronted with an actual combat opponant, he ran away like a little girl, lest he got another roundhouse kick to his (mech)face. >:DDDD Lelouch seems happy to pull the trigger in the face of a defenseless opponant, but in combat, he seems to like to lead from behind. Like the Duke of Plaza-toro...;)
I still say the point is that there is no counterbalance. It's brand shiny new technology, in terms of the story. It annoys the Sutherland pilots too. As for mech combat experience, it does seem that the Lancelot replicates what Suzaku can personally do; he performed that kick on Lelouch in person and then he did it again in the mech. It's more than just his experience as a mere pilot; I think that's Lloyd's point -it's Suzaku himself, his own abilities, that are making Lancelot super special right now; it's the meeting of man and machine.
I have noticed, since it was pointed out to me here, that there actually *is* a lot of Suzaku bashing...I think a lot of people just don't like to see Lelouch getting pawned. And in mechs and in person, when it comes to physical prowess (yaoi jokes aside), Suzaku wins. Whether he is as sly...? Well, he's a 'point and click' soldier so far, and hasn't been presented (story wise) with an opportunity to display tactical ability (or not). ;)
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Hmmm. I like that idea of Knightmare operations, actually. It fills up several plot holes, though somewhat too Evangelion for my tastes. (I'm old fashioned and like my mechs button-and-pulley operated, but I'm in a minority) We're looking it differently, I guess. To quote a person in my flist, you're using Watsonian and I'm using Doylesian. INSIDE the story, the Lancelot makes the greatest sense. OUTSIDE the story, in terms of how the authors use it as a plot device, and it's not that satisfying.
I can't speak for Suzaku-bash, though, since I like him basically second (albeit rather distant second) to Lelouch at the moment. Won't deny that I do go "What, are you serious?" quite often with him, but he's a likable person. I'm actually wishing he hurries it up and become Suzaku of the Counterattack, so we get to see his style of leadership.
(Also, I just noticed that the original comment is gone. It said basically the same thing in your last paragraph, though)
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XD Yes. Tactical retreat! XDDD The Duke of Plaza Toro (lyrics) (http://www.theofficenet.com/~jack/arts/duke.html) is a patter song from a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta...;)
Most things are a plot device in the end; I just don't tend to look at things in those terms unless it's blatantly illogical. For me, Lancelot's power level, considering it's backstory etc, is all quite logical. ;) My favourite mechs ever were the ones in Sousei No Aquarion. Now those were some crazy mechs!
I hadn't noticed the bashing, as I said...but when I was reading the various anime blogs about Geass this week, I really did. It surprised me a lot! I think all this talk of 'giving Suzaku angst' is a bit silly - he already has it. Every character has their light and shade, a 'darker' or a 'harder' side to them (except Shirley, who genuinely is made of cardboard). Suzaku just deals with it (so far) more patiently than Lelouch.
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Funny, I was just talking about this. XD Orange-kun should try singing the song the next time he meets Zero and see if it works as a revenge.
Well, there are satisfying plot devices and there are unsatisfying plot devices. I tend to look at it in both terms unless it's about the characters and their motivations/how the setting works. Then I go Watsonian. But I guess our preferences also explain it : I dislike ubermechs, and as there's a tendency to use it as a Universal Solution to War Problems, I dislike the use even more. XD
I noticed some, but didn't think it was that serious...and eh, they're actually saying that!? I thought Suzaku had always had major issues. Probably more serious than Lelouch does, if you compare the level of WTF in their actions. He's so easily affected it's obvious.
But then again, I've always thought Suzaku is so similar on different spins to Lelouch it hurts. Aside from his facing a rigged court thing. Either he's insane naive or insane fatalistic.
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(I always though G&S's Modern Major General patter would have been good for Clovis; it's the 'When I know more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery' line...or he's Iago's Michael Cassio, who 'never set a squadron in the field nor the division of a battle knows more a than a spinster'...XD)
Suzaku seems to restrict his gestures to small things mostly, like clenching his fists and narrowing his eyes. Little displays of what's going on inside. Whilst Lelouch privately kills like a maniac and publically...dresses as a cat...wtf? Lelouch is quite mad. XDD When Suzaku went back to the court, that was brilliant! XD Lelouch got pwned again! XDD