Episode 20 Discussion

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I have been remiss in my self-set duties of trying to keep up on episode discussions. I got distracted by all the spoilers and was less interested in the now. I shall remedy that tonight.

Note: This rundown is slightly more fan-ish than recent ones because I had more time to let it sink in.



I agree with many people that 20 did not have enough Lelouch. I adore Euphemia, and Suzaku in fighting mode is always a thing of beauty, but I do need a good chunk of Lelouch because them alone is not quite as gripping. I guess having the scenes with him in the Gawain made up for it almost. I think I about died when I realized Lelouch was hardly doing *anything* the whole time and that C.C. was doing all the work. I think Lulu pushed the button for the lasers. Didn't one of the magazines say something about how although Gawain is a two-pilot Knightmare, it doesn't really need the second pilot? Wait to go, Lulu. That pimp shot of him stealing the thunder for all of C.C.'s skills is the stuff cracky dreams are made out of. Also, Gawain could probably *eat* Lancelot. No wonder it needs C.C. to pilot it. The thing's ginormous. I did think Suzaku was a little too eager to work with Zero, considering he saw him threatening Euphemia with a gun in the episode before. I would chalk it up to some effect of his Geass, but it seemed that Gawain's arrival interrupted his dip into Geass mode. Let's not go into how Gawain and Lancelot are totally the greatest OTP evar!

Then when have Suzaku and Euphemia. First, I want to say it's too bad the timeslot forces the episode to move faster because I would have definitely liked to see Suzaku trying to defend himself at his court marshal, after the Geass incident. Why did Schneizel let him off so easy? I predict foul play at work. Also, the "I give back my knighthood and then reclaim it 20 minutes later" makes the action fairly pointless. I mean, was he even a non-knight for more than a day? The only benefit from that randomness is it led to some somber introspection from Euphemia. I enjoyed her struggle between wanting to avenge Clovis while wanting to save Lelouch and Nunnally. I also thought she was going to implode with brotherly love when she saw Lelouch and Suzaku working together. Euphemia is so cute. Even if she is almost as much of a dork as her brother. Seriously, woman, you do not confess your love while your boyfriend is in the heat of battle. I love how Suzaku was all "Uh... kind of busy here..." and then ends up agreeing to Euphemia's "order" to love him because he's in battle mode. Oh the dialogue. Again, I love Euphie, but that dialogue. Ow ow ow. And the worst part was the entire time Suzaku is letting her go on and on and then trying to reassure her, he knows he's a dead man. It's like "Aww, you're sweet. Oh did I mention I ran out of power and am gonna die now? Sorry about that. ;_;" Suzaku, you ass. The ending scene did improve on the dialogue though, as Suzaku's happy smile and "Yes, your highness" sent giddy chills up my spine.

Also love for the competition between Laksharta and Pudding Earl.

I would comment on the Nina/Euphie scene, but all I have to say is that I think Nina thought she was getting through to Euphemia about her crush at the end there. She is going to throttle Suzaku at the pizza party. ^_~


As usual, bring up your own topics on the episode and go wild.

Comments

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Best post ever.
Yes, that episode was ALL kinds of love.
I think I peed myself when C.C. and Lulu showed up in Gawain.

"Pudding Earl" I love you for this!!!!!!!!!

Nina/Euphie was kinda ew...I'll never look at Nina the same, after the table-humping episode. Poor Euphie...
I loved how everyone was awesome/dorky in this episode. My squee level was OVER 9000!!!!!

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I heard Laksharta laughing about that nickname and how he beat her at the Float System, but she owned him when it came to the Gejfun Disturber. I want to see more of those two randomly competing with their mech inventions. I wonder if they take pictures of them to share with each other when they meet on the street or something and talk smack about the other. I could see Lloyd doing an almost-Hughes impression as he talks about how awesome Lancelot is.

I was actually irked when Gawain first showed off because I wanted to see Suzaku in Geass mode again. But when I saw the set up inside the Knightmare, all that frustration... GONE.

[spleener.livejournal.com]

I expected Nina to be more "creepy stalker"-ey than she was when talking to Euphie, IMO.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

I wanted Nina to be Euphie's first kiss. :(

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Okay, yeah. Wild Suzaku/Euphie lover that I am (and I have yet to come up with a horrendous ship name yet. Suzuphie? Euzaku just sounds like Lancelot screwed a ZAKU. Perhaps I'm doomed to type out all thirteen letters of "Suzaku/Euphie"), I loved this episode. I thought the confession was adoribly dorky. It reminded me, in a way, of Lelouch's "Suzaku was the first friend I ever had" -- well, he's also, presumably, the first person Euphie's fallen in love with, so I can excuse her for, uh, how sweetly silly the confession was.

And. Yeah. Them working together. What the fuck? It would have been better without the music. Or if Suzaku occasionally tried to shoot Gawain. Like, Gawain drifts down, Suzaku tries to shoot it and has no power.

Suzaku: Are you here to fuck shit up, too, Zero?
Lelouch: No. And you're out of power. Shut up and take my big package like a man.
Suzaku: ... well, okay, as long as I tried and you're not going to pull anything on Britannia.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Euzaku just sounds like Lancelot screwed a ZAKU.

I actually liked the name until I read the rest of the sentence. Now I can't even think it without nearly dying of laughter.

It was a little like Lelouch's saparific speech. Must be a Britannian thing to express your feeling as clumsily and adorkably as possible.

It would have been pretty friggin' hilarious had Suzaku tried to shoot Gawain every once in a while and run out of power. I would have gone for that just to see the ultra-irritated look on Lelouch's face.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

"Shut up and take my big package like a man."

*dies laughing*

This post is turning into ALL Kinds of awesome!!!!

[meitsu.livejournal.com]

How about Suphie?

[hylarn.livejournal.com]

You know, so far all of Scheizels plans seem to involve Suzaku dying. Then Lulu saves him.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Schneizel is a BL fan. It was easy for him to get Euphie a private line because he'd been spying on Suzaku the whole time, waaaaaiting for Gawain to show up and propose to Lancelot.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Ohhh! You're right!!! I think Shitzel is going to have much more surprises up his sleeve!!!

[nayami.livejournal.com]

It makes you think, does it? XD

[atemu-mana.livejournal.com]

Really, I just don't get it. How can Suzaku fight and at the same time hearing Euphie order him to love her? If I were Suzaku, I just stop. Lol~~!

And Suzuphie is a nice name.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Suzaku couldn't fight. That was the point. He was trying to get her to bring this up at sometime that was MORE CONVENIENT. XD

Suzuphie?

[zalem.livejournal.com]

While this episode was nowhere near as good as 17-19, it was immensely amusing. There were flaws of course. The love confession was a bit weird. I mean, it wasn't anything out of the blue like say....Shinn and Lunamaria from GSD (now that was out of the blue AND at a very awkward point in the series), but it did seem like an odd moment. That Euphie has been clearly crushing on Suzaku is pretty clear. I'm not quite so sure of Suzaku's feelings for her. He seems fond of her, but I don't see him looking at her in a romantic way. At least, not yet.

Love the competition between Laksharta and Pudding Earl...just way too amusing. I hope we see more. Laksharta has attitude, I like her! :) Hope she gets more screentime too.

The OTP mecha love was the fun point. A bit cheesy, but fun. Also agree that I think Suzaku should have been alot more hesitant to accept Zero's help. So that is a definite flaw. Unless, like you mention, you chalk it up to the geass "live" command.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I think Suzaku is just shy and awkward and confused because she's a princess and he's an Eleven. I'm sure he likes her. I'm not sure if it's up to love yet. I think hers is stronger for the moment, but she just needs to work with him. He did say she makes him more willing to open up.

Laksharta is one of the most awesome females of the series. She reminds me of a vicious cross between Kanoe and Yuuto and that makes me love her even more. I think some of Diethart's screentime should be given to her.

It would have worked so much better if they hadn't shown the Geass literally turn off in Suzaku's eyes. What, he suddenly doesn't need his super power to live since he *knows* Zero will save him? Bzzzt!

[sinspire.livejournal.com]

Oh man, when Gawain showed up a nearly shat myself. I mean I'm no expert on Mecha, but even I can tell that it one sexy piece of work. I'm happy they didn't give it to the stripper Kallen.

And, must I say, some of Pudding Earl's expressions in this episode... yay, I sure as hell better see some nice icons of those. :o

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I don't find Gawain as sexy as Lancelot because Lancelot moves like a stripper BEAST! But Gawain's super hot lasers make up for its bulkiness. And it just has this air of "WORSHIP ME!" to it. It's like the god of Knightmares.

I enjoyed seeing him spaz about Laksharta beating him at his own game. We never see a true Lloyd spaz, and this episode delivered and how. You would have thought he was being held at gunpoint.

[halevy.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen like, 16-20 yet but um -

MECHA OTP? WHAT DOESN'T THIS SHOW HAVE? skhgskgsskghsk *keyboard smash*

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Hmm... people on drugs? It needs more people on drugs.

[braver.livejournal.com]

I love how Suzaku was all "Uh... kind of busy here..." and then ends up agreeing to Euphemia's "order" to love him because he's in battle mode.
XD I had to pause there and laugh myself to death at that. XD

And then a couple of seconds later, I was yelling "Suzaku, you ass! If you die, I'm going to kill you!"

...>_>; Yeah, I don't know why I talk to shows like that. XD

[nayami.livejournal.com]

It was damn funny how awkward he was because he couldn't believe she was trying to discuss this with him in the middle of a friggin' battle!

Ah, but were you yelling louder than "OH NOES"!Euphie is the question? ^_~

[ryans-cupcake.livejournal.com]

I loved this ep.
Gawain proposing to Lancelot was the best part though.
Woo~ always good to see Suzauphie... (that sounds reeeeeeeealy strange...)

[nayami.livejournal.com]

They really couldn't have made that more fluffy and gay if they tried. Well, maybe if there were shoujo bubbles.

I'm amused by all the variations people are coming up with by trying to smoosh Suzaku and Euphemia's names together. I usually just stick with capitals. Safer that way. XD

[defade.livejournal.com]

I was like, "Ahh....-_-" when I saw that Lulu's hands were resting comfortably on the pilot seat. I was hoping for some electronics action(which is why there's two pilots in the first place - the electronics of Gawain is complicated like woah, so when Lulu focuses on it, it's safer for someone else to pilot it so you don't get your ass whacked). But I guess there's no need, with Lancelot cooperating, beating up Kyushuu is like pudding...STILL.

AND I AGREE. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LELOUCH IN THIS EPISODE. I think Suzaku actually had more screentime than him. Not that I mind, I really do like Suzaku and Euphemia in this episode. And I was cheering for Lancelot. But they just don't match up.;_;

I wonder, if there'll be any future chance that Gawain and Lancelot will work together. I'd love to see this ideal combo once more.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

We probably don't want Lulu, with his 50-50 success ratio, to have that much control over something so complicated. C.C. is definitely the pony to bet on for this race.

Needs more Lulu. ;_;

I wish just because the alternative is Gawain vs. Lancelot, and I think Gawain could probably bitch-slap Lancelot into something, and that would be all she wrote. Lulu would have to get the mech that compensates for his scrawniness.

[puchikonyo.livejournal.com]

much love for the Laksharta and llyod rivalry!! X3

though ep 20 is one of those eps tht it feels like the animators are just dumping all the plot points they can think of into 1 ep D: the confession was cute tho seriously out of place. ~___~

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Well, they have to move fast to get enough plot into the storyline before they reach the ending. This time they weren't smothering us in Black Knights plot like they usually do, along with everything else. Of course that meant less Lelouch...

[clamp-hikari.livejournal.com]

I agree, That didn't have enough Lelouch. Suzaku/Euphie? Not interested.... they're soooooo BORING.

Yeahhhhh~!!!! Nina crush him

[empanadas]

The lack of Lelouch makes me sad. D:

Of course, there are other good things that made up for it, such as the SuzaEuphie goodness, the Lloyd and Laksharta rivalry, Gawain, C.C. in her pilot suit, Lelouch sitting in his cockpit being a lazy smartass while C.C. does the work, and Nina's meeting with Euphemia.

But sheesh... that love confession. Euphie, I love you, but damn... that was retarded! Suzaku, you lamer. x3 BOTH OF YOU ARE SO DAMN CORNY. That scene was so bad and poorly-timed, it's funny. So bad, it's good. So bad, I laughed my ass off. Euphie might as well said that she'd love to run her fingers through Suzaku's hot muscular body. =p I'd totally love to see that, though. xD

[(Anonymous)]

"cockpit" XD

Sorry, I'm retarded, silly things like that amuse me.