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code_geass2006-11-30 11:07 pm
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Warning: nerdiness ahead
Hello all! This is my first post to this community, even though I've been lurking for several weeks.
Unfortunately, I bear no gifts. Instead I have a transcription of what I thought is interesting in ep.7 on Suzaku's textbook.
The dots represent missing text and brackets represent my own words.
"... of Henry IX, son of the great [Elizabeth I?]... flourished as never before.
While other European countries stagnated assailed by waves of people's revolutions and parliamentarization, England held fast to absolute monarchy, and saw continued development through the reigns of King Henry X and Edward VI thanks to the wealth produced by the New World."
This tells us that Britannia came from an England that never gave way to constitutional monarchy. From the sounds of it in ep.3 and here, Queen Elizabeth I did marry and had a son named Henry IX, who doesn't actually exist in our world. So there would've been no Act of Union between Scotland and England and the English Civil War would not have happened. The kings after him are pretty powerful rulers too and that could be why the American revolution didn't happen or was won by the British.
Sorry for the extreme nerdiness there, but I've always liked British royal family history, even fictional ones. ^^;; I hope it's not too spam-ish.
By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?
Unfortunately, I bear no gifts. Instead I have a transcription of what I thought is interesting in ep.7 on Suzaku's textbook.
The dots represent missing text and brackets represent my own words.
"... of Henry IX, son of the great [Elizabeth I?]... flourished as never before.
While other European countries stagnated assailed by waves of people's revolutions and parliamentarization, England held fast to absolute monarchy, and saw continued development through the reigns of King Henry X and Edward VI thanks to the wealth produced by the New World."
This tells us that Britannia came from an England that never gave way to constitutional monarchy. From the sounds of it in ep.3 and here, Queen Elizabeth I did marry and had a son named Henry IX, who doesn't actually exist in our world. So there would've been no Act of Union between Scotland and England and the English Civil War would not have happened. The kings after him are pretty powerful rulers too and that could be why the American revolution didn't happen or was won by the British.
Sorry for the extreme nerdiness there, but I've always liked British royal family history, even fictional ones. ^^;; I hope it's not too spam-ish.
By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?
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Oooh... I like this idea. The keyword here is probably the "again" when the Emperor mentioned Ragnarok. Maybe some catastrophic (even apocolytic) event happened before. I am curious though, how do the Japanese sites equate 'Holy Calendar' with 'after the battle'?
Re in-fighting: They definitely emphasize quite a bit on who is before or after whom to the throne. The numbers are practically part of their title. Heck, I think it is part of their title, like the 'Prince of Wales' is to the crown prince of Britain, Lelouch is the '17th heir to the throne'.
I am a little confused at how they put the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in front of the title Prince/Princess. I know Lelouch is the 11th Prince according to the manga, but Euphemia is the 3rd Princess but a year younger than Lelouch. If they are lining the kids up to the throne by age, I don't see how he is just the 17th successor. Something else for me to work out I guess.
Re Kururugi: Yeah, I've been wondering about why Suzaku stated it that way (yeah, it was to Yuffie).
Re Ashford: Hmm... that could be it. Though if he is truely working for the Emperor, what's in it for him to protect Lelouch and Nunnally? Unless the Emperor actually has uses for Lelouch later and ordered Ashford to protect him secretly...?
By the way, did you notice in ep. 9 that Cornelia mentioned battle has broken out with the EU at El Alamein? I thought it very very interesting. El Alamein was an important battle ground between the Axis and the Allies in WWII because it had access to the Suez Canal.
I am a little unsure of what she meant by the transportation route to China Federation though. Was she still talking about the drug?
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Er, my mistake with English. The Japanese don't equate "Holy Calendar" with "after the battle", but they do with "a.t.b.". I was trying to say that since Holy Calendar = atb, it'd be really weird if atb = after the battle. It could sort of work if the battle was some sort of a holy battle (and if it's Ragnarok, it better be) but that's relying on the creator's English skills, at best.
Yeah, they seem to refer to each other by their claims, though it seems the better claimants used their xth Prince/Princess listing instead. Possibly by the date of marriage/wife ranking for their mothers? Marianne was Empress, sure, but we have no idea what they call--say--Schneizel's mother. It could be by rights of succession according to parentage first, age later.
I only watched Ep. 9 once because work piled (it sucks, believe me) but that's really interesting. So the EU wasn't just sitting around powerless, after all. They really seemed to be in a stage of Unhappy with their neighbours. The question is, is this a semi-regular/foreseen skirmish, or an all-out frontal attack? And there's the importance of the Suez Canal...if Britannia's shipping lines need to go around there...I'll have to look at the map first, though.
I thought Britannian transportation to China would be easy. After all, they have Japan, and Japan is quite close to China. If Britannia still rules the waves, getting the drug from America (what name would that area use, I wonder) shouldn't be difficult.
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That sounds entirely plausible to me. :D
Re a.t.b.: *nod* their English skills (or lack thereof) is something to take into consideration. I am hoping that they consulted someone who is skilled in English about this though. Judging from the passage I transcribed, they do have someone who knows it well, unless they hired a professional translator?
Re succession: Yeah, I figured out it was ranking by mother after my earlier post. Maybe all of the Emperor's wives are dubbed Empresses?
semi-regular/foreseen skirmish, or an all-out frontal attack
I say skirmish. The areas west of Egypt had all been European territory while Britain took over Egypt at some point. Assuming those territories never gained their independence, EU can be squabbling with Britannia in a semi-regular fashion for Suez Canal.
Re transportation to China: So she is still talking about the drug and plans to send it over to China. American could be Area 1, or just North America. Canada was called British North America. I can't see either of them being just an Area though.
Re Ashford: Yeah, I can see the Emperor disposing him after his mission was completed. As for cultivating the two royals...maybe? If he can see potential in Lelouch... but they are both dead on paper, so it's rather optimistic of Ashford to think that way.
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The onscreen English does seem uncommonly nice up to this point, though there are small WTFs here and there. I think someone caught "Honored Britannian" a while back? Maybe it'll be listed in the credit, but I think whoever knew English was on the crew.
The African Theater had never been my forte, but that seems just about right. I'm pretty sure the ownership of territories are different from our world, but the canal would be important all the same. Could the middleeast battle be related to this particular conflict? (And it's amusing and awesome to think of Democratic Paragon EEU having colonial territories)
Hmmm...I think Wiki said that Britain was going to call the tentative English territory something else before it became Columbia. Some explorer's name...North America alienates less, though. And yeah, I can't see them being called Areas, either. They seem more like an integrated part of the empire.
It's a huge stretch, I know. I'm throwing out wild theories on the go. Or he took them in because he had no choice, to leave them for dead or to show them would end in some unhappy fate or the other---which would also explain why Lelouch is so faithless in mankind?
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Yeah, think it was "Honorable Britannian" instead of "Honored Britannian".
Could the middleeast battle be related to this particular conflict?
Possibly? I think Cornelia was either claiming a new territory or squashing down some resistance in Area 18. Maybe EEU felt threatened that Britannia claimed (another?) territory in the middle east. Or they see this as an opportunity to attack since Cornelia is not around.
I think he had no choice either, and no matter how much he wants to build up his family again, leaving 2 young children to fend for themselves during a war may not be an option for him.
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