ext_210289 ([identity profile] stuffedpanda.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] code_geass2008-05-04 06:46 pm
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episode 5 was hilarious

under a cut... might have spoilers


ROFL. I love you Lelouch. Slow as always. Okay anyways, that was rather shady of Suzaku to use Nunally against Lelouch. I'm starting to dislike him after I just started liking him, o_O. Suzaku plans on getting Knight of One? I want him to die trying, lol. But anyways, I think Nunally will end up dead one day and Lelouch will pull a Suzaku. Just my opinion.

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Truly. XD; I don't see why people hate him so much. Before he was too nice. Now he's too mean? D:
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[identity profile] shyue.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree that CG has basically no justice standpoint. There is no right side or wrong side. It's just about what you want and how you're going to get it. The rest is defined merely by personal perception.

NO MOAR SUZAKU HATE. :| *picket line*

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Most likely because of his consistent opposition to the beloved main character. Last I checked, Lelouch had some serious issues too. D:

I seriously doubt that Suzaku would do anything to hurt Nunnally, so obviously he hasn't stooped to Lelouch's level yet.

To me CG isn't that kind of show, it's not that easy to decide who's in the wrong, it's not that black and white.

Agreed. It depends on how you look at each character. I like Lelouch, but I believe in Suzaku. XD

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think Suzaku would hurt Nunally, either.

But I don't quite see how doing so would be stooping to Lulu's level?... Can you explain that part?

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Lelouch uses people for his own gain and usually not for a greater good, maybe? I know he had to do what he did to Euphie, so I somewhat excuse that, but what he's doing to Rollo is a bit excessive. Use him and then throw him out like a useless rag? I don't care who it is. Suzaku would never regard Nunnally or anyone in that manner. Well, anyone except Lelouch. XD;

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think what trips me up on this point is that it's Nunally. Suzaku cares about Nunally, too, so I don't think he's going to hurt her. But Lulu doesn't care about Rolo, so why not hurt him?

Suzaku will have stooped to Lulu's level when he hurts someone he doesn't care about. I don't think we can use Nunally as an example because of their relationship.

Now, if Suzaku does hurt Nunally, I will say he has gone lower than Lelouch. Because we know that even though Lulu uses everyone he cares about left and right, he uses them within the parameters that they won't get hurt in the process. If Suzaku stops caring about people he loves getting hurt...

But he hasn't hurt anyone but Lulu, yet. He did just use Nunally, though. Nunally's going to be so hurt when Lulu has to say, "I'm sorry, I'm not your brother," though...

Oh geez. It just got complicated, didn't it?

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
I said "or anyone in that manner" meaning that he doesn't regard human life as something you can just "throw away". Lelouch does. Suzaku is probably never going to hurt Nunnally and most likely he has her best interests at heart. Maybe not so much in regards to Lelouch, but as you can see he hasn't told Nunnally all the things Lelouch has done. If he were really using her, wouldn't he have told her whatever he knew about Zero?

Also, a lot of people seem to be forgetting that Lelouch just used Ogi, his friend, to get to Viletta. Parallelism, much? EVERYONE IS USING EVERYONE EVER. It's a Code Geass conspiracy, I SAY. Lelouch IS finally getting a taste of his own medicine and I have to say I am truly enjoying it. XD

I also, don't think Lelouch will hurt Nunnally either. D: I mean, then he would be in the wrong, because if he says "I'm sorry, I'm not your brother," then that will mean that he's hurting Nunnally, not Suzaku. Lelouch has to decide what's more important to him. The Knights or his sister and I hope he doesn't pass up this chance.

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
ALSO, again, who says that Lelouch has to blow off Nunnally? Suzaku might have put him in this position, but it all depends on what Lelouch does in the end. Either way, Lelouch is the only person with the power to hurt someone. It's Suzaku's fault that Lelouch decided to disregard his own sister for the sake of his own gain? Lelouch has to decide what's more important. Nunnally or what he's doing right now?

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-10 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
You seem to be implying that Lelouch's best choice would be to admit he remembers Nunally and reveal that he is Zero, once again.

...That would most likely result in a pathetically short chase scene followed by Lulu's arrest. Oo...

But I don't think, if Suzaku were using Nunally, that he would have told her everything, because her innocence and love for her brother is his best weapon, as we saw.

But you know Lelouch would blame Suzaku for putting him in such a position where he'd have to hurt Nunally, and Suzaku must realize that part was his doing, too. Lelouch brought it on himself, yes, but Suzaku also could stop at any time.

And sorry that this is so late in coming, but I was trying not to fail at life elsewhere. ^_^'''

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...That would most likely result in a pathetically short chase scene followed by Lulu's arrest. Oo...

...I mean, no. XD; As Zero Lelouch's best choice would be to reject Nunnally, however, Lelouch's best choice would be to acknowledge Nunnally, WHICH HE technically DID. Rollo just happened to be in the right place at the right time, if he hadn't of been, I seriously doubt Lelouch would have been able to lie to Nunnally.

XD; Ah, no problem. I'm quite the late replier as well. -shot-

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
That chase scene would have been really fun to watch, huh?~

Rollo to the rescue!~ I was hoping Rolo would have something to do with it, but I didn't realize he could control size, so I didn't think he'd do it quite like that. Spifftastic.

You cheated. You had the episode to draw from. Oo... *Does not really blame you*

I think this was the best outcome for all. Nunally was sad, but not too sad, and it wasn't really Lulu's doing. And Suzaku got his ass pwned.

[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
IKR. But it probably wouldn't have taken too long since, apparently, Lelouch is extremely FAIL at running. D:

I didn't think Rollo would come along, but it totally made sense.

YES. I CHEATED. But regardless of whether I watched the episode, I still had a feeling that Lelouch wouldn't lie to Nunnally anyway. SO HAH. INTUITION FTW. %D

I think this was the best outcome for all. Nunally was sad, but not too sad, and it wasn't really Lulu's doing. And Suzaku got his ass pwned.

TRUE. Plus this keeps the show going in circles, BUT STILL. ;D NEW PLOT PLZ.

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I am suffering a power outage and thereby do not want to spend too much time but I would like to say agree! To all of those things! yes.

[identity profile] soba-noodlez.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
er...Euphie was an accident....
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[identity profile] soba-noodlez.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well he had to shoot her! If he didn't, she would've killed innocent Japanese people! I know it's not her fault, but she still would've done it. But you're right, it was totally Lelouch's fault in the first place for showing up there at all.

[identity profile] thrumugnyr.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess that was easier, than just explaining Suzaku the whole Geass thing.
It's not as he really liked killing Euphie as much as Suzaku now enjoys to torture Lelouch out opf hate o_O'' At least so it seems to me.

[identity profile] rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
I am absolutely convinced that if we kept the same characters and plot, but changed the series' perspective from Lelouch to Suzaku, we would see fandom opinions for these two characters completely reversed. Behold, magical protagonist powers!

Methinks the average fan forgets the importance of perspective in judging characters. They forget that almost everything we see is from Lelouch's standpoint and that both Lelouch and Suzaku are massively complex characters who are each greater than the sum of their actions. We get to see both Zero and Suzaku do shitty things, but we have the benefit of hearing Lelouch's thoughts, helping us to justify his actions. Apparently, not being able to mind-read Suzaku = fandom hate. -_-

[identity profile] wishmasterfuuma.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
What I'm always saying.

You've gotta remember, Suzaku doesn't know Euphie was an accident. Suzaku thinks Lelouch deliberately did that with mind-controlling abilities that he uses without conscience.

I'm sure we'd all be a little angry, too.

This also implies, another thing I always say, that if the two idiots just sat down and talked, half the problems in this series would go away.