ext_210289 ([identity profile] stuffedpanda.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] code_geass2008-05-04 06:46 pm
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episode 5 was hilarious

under a cut... might have spoilers


ROFL. I love you Lelouch. Slow as always. Okay anyways, that was rather shady of Suzaku to use Nunally against Lelouch. I'm starting to dislike him after I just started liking him, o_O. Suzaku plans on getting Knight of One? I want him to die trying, lol. But anyways, I think Nunally will end up dead one day and Lelouch will pull a Suzaku. Just my opinion.

Hmmmm

[identity profile] celemna.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
And people say Suzaku is unpopular. Now, I am in a little bit of turmoil here. Everything Lelouch did to Suzaku or to other people wasn't really his fault. Euphie? He didn't mean for it to happen, he was joking. Rollo? He'd been doing some pretty bad things anyway, and I'd be mad if someone was in on a plot to kidnap my only living relative, and of course I'd scapegoat whoever it was playing the role. Viletta? She's part of it too. I mean, he hasn't really used people in a big way if they haven't hurt him. Shirley in a minor way that was sort of assholish, but still.

At the same time Suzaku is entitled because of Euphie. Considering he probably doesn't know the truth behind it being an accident, his actions are forgivable. He loved euphie. But didn't he love Lelouch and Nunally as friends first? Why are they expendable, or tools he can use now without feeling remorse?

I don't hate either of them, they've both got reasonings that I can support. But Suzaku is lower on my belt because he's using people he's always loved. Lelouch? His minor usage of Shirley was after what he did to try and protect her from the pain of everything, he made her forget. She deserves an apology note, but not enough to say that Lulu is a bad dude. Damn V.V I blame you and the Emperor! xD

........Is Nunally just in the dark CONSTANTLY?

Re: Hmmmm

[identity profile] rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think people get confused about Suzaku because they start from the assumption that he is, at this moment, cool-headed and perfectly rational. I do think that he's rational, in that everything he does he does for a purpose. The problem is, everything he does is also highly emotionally tinted. I believe that latent anger and resentment for Euphie's fate may drive him to do things that a perfectly "normal" Suzaku wouldn't do.

The caveat is, of course, what is Suzaku truly like? Have we seen him? He's spent 7 years going crazy and the past year being devious. Should we say his true self is how he was prior to the invasion and patricide? But he's done a lot of maturing since then. We don't get to hear his thoughts, so all we are privy to are his actions. But, taking him as the sum of his actions is also doing a huge disservice to his character, as his motivations say far more about him. And if we try to examine his motivations, all we can tell is that he's a fiercely emotional person, whose heart is in the right place but who is prone to stray from the objectively "right path".

TL;DR: I think that his latent anger at Lelouch and incredibly strong attachment to Euphie (and their mutual goals) are overriding what would have held him back otherwise. It's emotional, and it's kinda a shitty thing to do, but it makes sense.