http://assoil.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] assoil.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] code_geass2008-09-19 11:12 pm
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After watching again episode 23 I noticed a thing...



If Nunally is a 'Lie detector' and obviously didn't trust Suzaku, Lelouch and Miss Rosmeyer what ever her name is Why didn't she took Schneizel's hand to find out is he was telling the truth?

Another loophole Sunrise?

[identity profile] silentorphan.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
No, it simply means Schneizel's mask is just that good.

[identity profile] ex-defaced.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Power level of Schneizel's mask = Over 9000

[identity profile] meihime-sama.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
True dat.

[identity profile] amachizzle.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
That's not the real Nunally - it's a robotic clone made to think that she's the real Nunally.

[identity profile] preciousrosee.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
LOL xD

[identity profile] chunky-bunny.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
She probably trusts Schneizel too much, or maybe Schneizel is the king of manipulation.

It's either that, or sunrise decided to forget that fact.

[identity profile] cranes.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
All of these are 100% reasonable explanations.

That helps nothing. :X

Your icon

[identity profile] anemoneoflight.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
DAT ASS.JPG

[identity profile] juliagraywords.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if she did, Schneizel would just say that Cornelia is fighting and should not be distracted.

[identity profile] csakura.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i had that question, too, but i think that even if nunnally is the ultimate lie detector, she's not a naturally suspicious person, but a really trusting one. at least that is how i reasoned the hole to myself :)

[identity profile] preciousrosee.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think that she really trusts him
:S!

[identity profile] kadzuki.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Because she's the most evil of all!! D=

[identity profile] glorfindel.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Only Kanon is allowed to touch Schneizel, no one else. XD

[identity profile] slasher-forever.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
SECONDED~!

[identity profile] inulovinkit.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's not really Nunnally--it's a clone made from whatever bits of Nunnally they found at the FREIJA scene in order so Schneizel could grant his wish.

But for the SAKE OF TWO FUTURES! Lulu and Suzaku must defeat him because the dream must end! D<

Hurry Lulu, before Suzaku gouges out and eats your Geass eye! D:

[identity profile] five-sunsets.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no...Tsubasa D8.

So there's a real!Suzaku lying around? D8

[identity profile] inulovinkit.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
Of course they're is...it's from the dropped Geass subplot! At the very end of the show, we'll have a Clone!Suzaku and a Real!Suzaku faceoff!

JUST DON'T LET NUNNALLY GET INT THE WAY! Dx Or you may find out the hard way she's not the real one.

[identity profile] five-sunsets.livejournal.com 2008-09-21 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
And then Clone!Suzaku will stab Clone!Nunnally D8

and she will disappear into flower petals =3=
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[identity profile] tenshi789.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
sometimes

[identity profile] emifujiwara.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
OH NOES, TSUBASA ALL OVER AGAIN

Not that I don't like Tsubasa but...eh...no. I think Code Geass is less WTF than Tsubasa. I think. Ah, CLAMP...

[identity profile] darksage29.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
The strange thing is, I'm reading chapitre 199 the same time I'm watching Turn 23.
I can so see the parallels

[identity profile] starsinshapes.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hell, I even forgot that fact, so I'm sure sunrise did too.

And I think she's a fake nunnally anyway.

[identity profile] gacktsuki.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
I say she's being deceived now because Scheizel's mask is just that good, but in the long run, Nunnally's lie detector will prevail and she'll come back to her brother.

[identity profile] cr-balmung.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
She might not have had enough time to actually tell from touching his hand. I'm also thinking Nunnally will tell he's lying to her.

[identity profile] kienai.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Schneizel's fabulous-ness messed up her intuition :\

[identity profile] kurozukin-a.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Simple explanation: if Nunnally = Toph, then Schneizel = Azula.

[identity profile] cheezmonke.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

[identity profile] juliagraywords.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am a four-hundred-foot tall purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings."

[identity profile] cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconded!

[identity profile] mikoto-chan13.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
She wouldn't be able to tell anyway, because he wears gloves. (On purpose, obviously, BWAHAHAHAHA)

[identity profile] levy.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Schneizel has been lying to Nunnaly about the fate of Pendragon inhabitans, but when he told her that Lelouch is Zero, he was not. Maybe Nunnaly is so mad at her brother she decide to ignore the other things that Schneizel is not telling her, because her main priority is to wash away Lelouch sins and madness. She's that idealistic kind of person, and never seemed too smart to me anyway, and we might assume that she's emotionally crushed...

Anyway, remember, people, that Scheizel badassery is blantant only for the all-knowing spectator. The characters don't know anything about his plans, just that he gots a powerfull nuclear bomb and a flying magicall castle. Before he fired the FREJA on Pendragon, even Lloyd and Cécile that are undoubthely smart and have worked for him for a while, only got suspicions on what he was up to.

He is always using the same scheme against Lelouch: Lelouch's intentions are not bad, but he uses lies and the Geass to manipulate people. Schneizel uses a sapiently accomodated truth to make people turn against Lelouch, basically using the things that Lelouch has actually done to his advantage. And the evidence of truth, even a half of it, is much more dangerous and effective than the best constructed lie.
It worked this way with Cornelia, the OotBK, and we might assume that it is so also for Nunnaly.
In a particular case, Lelouch did him a great favour, telling Suzaku that he intentionally caused the incident with Euphemia, while it's not true. Suzaku probably understood back there and surely know the truth now, CC too, but what about anyone else?
Schneizel himself has no reasons to not believe what Lelouch told Suzaku about Euphemia wasn't the truth. Cornelia wanted to believe it, since she's desperately craving revenge for her dear sister. And it was enough to make the indignation of his former japanese comrades surpass the gratitude for the goals they had achieved thanks to Zero's leading...
..bah, I've rambled.

The main point was, Nunnaly's truth detector is hardly a problem for Schneizel, since he's not holding her hand all the time, and at the point of telling her what would have surely turn her against her brother - that Lelouch was Zero, the Geass and so on- he didn't need to lie at all ^^;

[identity profile] emifujiwara.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
I think she didn't get the time to touch his hand, or maybe it's just that she trusts him.
Moreover, her "lies detector" can't be infallible, right?

Or maybe Nunally is a clone |D

[identity profile] rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
Has we ever seen Schneizel take off his gloves? Does she need skin-to-skin contact?

[identity profile] brisent.livejournal.com 2008-09-21 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Oh baby.

[identity profile] spleener.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
She hasn't used it on him because she trusts him.

I give it a 75% chance that she'll get suspicious and use it on him next ep, though.

[identity profile] chickee1.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And then pulld a Shirley because she doesn't know who to trust...

[identity profile] chibisilent16.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

WAT NAO LELOUCHE XDDD

[identity profile] xoxeskel.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sunrise.

[identity profile] lost-colours.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Schneizel=Master of Lies and Deception!!

If you can't convince yourself, how can you convince others? He lied 'sincerely'... He believed in what he said, so that's why Nunnaly can't detect his 'lies'...

[identity profile] jusrecht.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
He lied 'sincerely'

LOL-ed

[identity profile] dropsofgleam.livejournal.com 2008-09-20 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, a living lie detector is not necessarily infallible, either. Even Daredevil and Toph from Avatar have failed to see through some particularly good liars. So if Nunnally touches Schneizel, he'd very possibly be able to deceive her anyway. =P

[identity profile] leitao.livejournal.com 2008-09-21 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
. . . I've been watching in ignorance, apparently. XD I always thought that Nunnally just meant that she could tell a lie by listening carefully to the voices, or feeling the tension in a person's hand when she holds it . . . like, her other senses were heightened due to the lack of sight, and she had pretty good intuition.

But she actually . . . she has a freaky superpower? O_o;

[identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com 2008-09-21 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Because schneizal is 300% calm most of the time, her skills fail on him