Episode 20 Discussion

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I have been remiss in my self-set duties of trying to keep up on episode discussions. I got distracted by all the spoilers and was less interested in the now. I shall remedy that tonight.

Note: This rundown is slightly more fan-ish than recent ones because I had more time to let it sink in.



I agree with many people that 20 did not have enough Lelouch. I adore Euphemia, and Suzaku in fighting mode is always a thing of beauty, but I do need a good chunk of Lelouch because them alone is not quite as gripping. I guess having the scenes with him in the Gawain made up for it almost. I think I about died when I realized Lelouch was hardly doing *anything* the whole time and that C.C. was doing all the work. I think Lulu pushed the button for the lasers. Didn't one of the magazines say something about how although Gawain is a two-pilot Knightmare, it doesn't really need the second pilot? Wait to go, Lulu. That pimp shot of him stealing the thunder for all of C.C.'s skills is the stuff cracky dreams are made out of. Also, Gawain could probably *eat* Lancelot. No wonder it needs C.C. to pilot it. The thing's ginormous. I did think Suzaku was a little too eager to work with Zero, considering he saw him threatening Euphemia with a gun in the episode before. I would chalk it up to some effect of his Geass, but it seemed that Gawain's arrival interrupted his dip into Geass mode. Let's not go into how Gawain and Lancelot are totally the greatest OTP evar!

Then when have Suzaku and Euphemia. First, I want to say it's too bad the timeslot forces the episode to move faster because I would have definitely liked to see Suzaku trying to defend himself at his court marshal, after the Geass incident. Why did Schneizel let him off so easy? I predict foul play at work. Also, the "I give back my knighthood and then reclaim it 20 minutes later" makes the action fairly pointless. I mean, was he even a non-knight for more than a day? The only benefit from that randomness is it led to some somber introspection from Euphemia. I enjoyed her struggle between wanting to avenge Clovis while wanting to save Lelouch and Nunnally. I also thought she was going to implode with brotherly love when she saw Lelouch and Suzaku working together. Euphemia is so cute. Even if she is almost as much of a dork as her brother. Seriously, woman, you do not confess your love while your boyfriend is in the heat of battle. I love how Suzaku was all "Uh... kind of busy here..." and then ends up agreeing to Euphemia's "order" to love him because he's in battle mode. Oh the dialogue. Again, I love Euphie, but that dialogue. Ow ow ow. And the worst part was the entire time Suzaku is letting her go on and on and then trying to reassure her, he knows he's a dead man. It's like "Aww, you're sweet. Oh did I mention I ran out of power and am gonna die now? Sorry about that. ;_;" Suzaku, you ass. The ending scene did improve on the dialogue though, as Suzaku's happy smile and "Yes, your highness" sent giddy chills up my spine.

Also love for the competition between Laksharta and Pudding Earl.

I would comment on the Nina/Euphie scene, but all I have to say is that I think Nina thought she was getting through to Euphemia about her crush at the end there. She is going to throttle Suzaku at the pizza party. ^_~


As usual, bring up your own topics on the episode and go wild.

Comments

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Euphie is kind of naked in the Animage spread. Does that count?

[zalem.livejournal.com]

While this episode was nowhere near as good as 17-19, it was immensely amusing. There were flaws of course. The love confession was a bit weird. I mean, it wasn't anything out of the blue like say....Shinn and Lunamaria from GSD (now that was out of the blue AND at a very awkward point in the series), but it did seem like an odd moment. That Euphie has been clearly crushing on Suzaku is pretty clear. I'm not quite so sure of Suzaku's feelings for her. He seems fond of her, but I don't see him looking at her in a romantic way. At least, not yet.

Love the competition between Laksharta and Pudding Earl...just way too amusing. I hope we see more. Laksharta has attitude, I like her! :) Hope she gets more screentime too.

The OTP mecha love was the fun point. A bit cheesy, but fun. Also agree that I think Suzaku should have been alot more hesitant to accept Zero's help. So that is a definite flaw. Unless, like you mention, you chalk it up to the geass "live" command.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Well, the entire royal family are BL lovers. Schneizel keeps setting Suzaku up to be saved by Lulu, Euphie glees at Suzaku and Lelouch together, Cornelia... I don't know -- Darlton/Guilford?

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I don't ever want to image a ZAKU on rollerblades. Damn, now I have horrible images of a Zaku raping poor widdle runt Lancelot. I already fear that from Gawain. There is something seriously wrong with me when it comes to this series. 0_o

This makes me a bit worried about what would happen if there actually was a Euphemia, Lelouch and Suzaku team-up. The dorkiness would be too much for this world to handle. It would spontaneously combust.

Lelouch is enough of a moron to actually offer that second chance. -_-;; And then Euphie, who was still almost pout-facing about the earlier tiff, would be even more in love with the both of them. Speaking of that, did she actually say Lelouch's name over the speaker? Because I read that on GameFAQs and think it's wrong.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

I can see the headlines now...

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Not enough. She looks funny in that.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I couldn't help it your conversation with aestalitz was just too awesome. ^^;;

See, I think Cornelia would work with the last one was if she was involved, and I'm not sure Darlton would really do it for her. Too bad Kewel bit the dust. Oh and you forgot to mention how Schneizel's army of pretty boys fits into this equation.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

It's not fair. She fits the stereotypical bill too. ;_; Poor crazy Nina.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

It would be like the DOM troopers. But Cornelia, Guilford, and Darlton already have that mecha-trio-where-the-tough-chick-is-the-only-important-one dynamic, so looks like we're out of luck there.

To the World of Cheese? -- I mean C. World of C.

Well, she does kind of beam and go "Suzaku... and Lelouch..." but I don't know if she's still on the line. It would be hilarious if she were.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Suzaku couldn't fight. That was the point. He was trying to get her to bring this up at sometime that was MORE CONVENIENT. XD

Suzuphie?

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

God, I forgot the harem of pretty boys. I think that makes up for Cornelia's ambigous slash-supporting.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Maybe she'll pull a Meer and bite a bullet for Euphie? :\

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I think Suzaku is just shy and awkward and confused because she's a princess and he's an Eleven. I'm sure he likes her. I'm not sure if it's up to love yet. I think hers is stronger for the moment, but she just needs to work with him. He did say she makes him more willing to open up.

Laksharta is one of the most awesome females of the series. She reminds me of a vicious cross between Kanoe and Yuuto and that makes me love her even more. I think some of Diethart's screentime should be given to her.

It would have worked so much better if they hadn't shown the Geass literally turn off in Suzaku's eyes. What, he suddenly doesn't need his super power to live since he *knows* Zero will save him? Bzzzt!

[sinspire.livejournal.com]

Oh man, when Gawain showed up a nearly shat myself. I mean I'm no expert on Mecha, but even I can tell that it one sexy piece of work. I'm happy they didn't give it to the stripper Kallen.

And, must I say, some of Pudding Earl's expressions in this episode... yay, I sure as hell better see some nice icons of those. :o

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Heeey maybe she will. That would be an interesting twist. I'm surprised nobody came up with that scenario yet.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

"Shut up! Who cares? I have to order Pizza Hut!"?

It makes me think Dilandau from Escaflowne actually.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Aw, I just want her to stick around and be relevant later in the series and do cool stuff, so I guess I'm scrambling for things she could do. She and Millay should go forth and kick ass somewhere and have sexy mecha screentime.

[zalem.livejournal.com]

I totally agree. I mean Diethardt's Zero Love is funny, but I'd much rather have more Laksharta. She really is swiftly becoming a favorite of mine. I wish people would make some nifty Laksharta icons.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I don't find Gawain as sexy as Lancelot because Lancelot moves like a stripper BEAST! But Gawain's super hot lasers make up for its bulkiness. And it just has this air of "WORSHIP ME!" to it. It's like the god of Knightmares.

I enjoyed seeing him spaz about Laksharta beating him at his own game. We never see a true Lloyd spaz, and this episode delivered and how. You would have thought he was being held at gunpoint.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

See, I need to see that series. My best frame of reference for Schneizel's posse is the Host Club showing up to Ashford and hitting on people.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

That is a truly terrifying notion of the Host Club at Ashford. Mostly because the meeting up of Tamaki and Millay would also signify the end of the world. I don't think they'll have enough time to make a try for the princess' hand before the badness sets in since it's supposed to be at the end of the episode. Alas.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I should make some Laksharta icons. If only to make horrible X jokes.

[sinspire.livejournal.com]

Eh, so what if Lancelot is a the sexy pornstar Knightmare and Gawain is the ferociously huge beast? That only means that Gawain gets to be seme. X3

Ha yes, spazz!Lloyd was far too priceless. I'm kind of routing for Laksharta, just for the hope that her pwning will get us more spazz attacks from Lloyd.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

You really want to put Nina in a Knightmare?

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

God, Tamaki is a male version of Millay. XD "What, Sir President? You haven't had a cat day?" "No, Lady President, but I'm sure with your grace and your beautiful student council, you could put on a beautiful pirate day..."