Is Turn 15 really the turning point now?

[recodes.livejournal.com]

Kindly don't proceed if you don't want to be spoiled. Participation from everybody who've watched Turn 15 (or those who love to be spoiled) is highly appreciated as per usual :)

First thing first, some points... (from my LJ, so, sorry if you're on my F-list and have read this there): Correct me where I'm wrong too, please.

1. Lulu hid behind Shinkirou (while thinking of a way to Geass Charles) to prevent direct eye contact with Charles, afraid that he would be Geassed again. Haha...
   
2. Lelouch's way of trying to Geass Charles ("I, Lelouch vi Britannia order you to drop dead lol die!" (TRYING to is the keyword) is absolutely awesome! Reminds me of Kanda (DGM) when he faced Skin Boric :P
   
3. CHARLES REALLY IS IMMORTAL!!!!! Goddammit, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! His marking is on his palm instead of on the forehead. Geez... Not like it would ruin you already ruined image or something...
4. VV was so cute when they were young, but I didn't get to see little Charles. I blame Sunrise fully for obscuring little Charles from view. Or wait, was that Charles?
   
5. Back to CC's contract with Lulu and her wish... Her wish, is for her existence to end (?). I was annoyed to the extent where I got slack-jawed when CC said Lulu's reason for living and whatnot were all twisted by her - that he had been fooled all this time. No shit. This is actually the same thing that the nun who gave young CC the power of Geass said to her when her Geass progressed to the point where the marking in the left eye spread to the other eye permanently. Young CC was annoyed that it's been keeping her away from ... her suitors... (I'd be annoyed by that eye too. Like of course!) and wanted to end the contract. And the nun... went all crazy and blurted out "You've been fooled!". I was like O_o...
   
6. C.C: "V.V... Did you like Marianne?" <<< Dun dun dun.... Can we shoot down the theory of VV hating Marianne now? He looked (and sounded) so sincere...
   
7. Suzaku... didn't get to drug Kallen. Phew... He was slapped (like many of us expected Kallen to do), which is REALLY good. Well, he pushed her down and tried to drug her, but then Kallen whined "Onii-chan"... Well, yay! Thank God the spoiler about him accidentally getting a refrain shot while struggling with Kallen didn't come true. I'd be annoyed if he remembers Euphie at this point :P Suzaku just smashed the thing to the floor.
   
8. Suzaku... is now conviced that Lulu IS Zero. He went to school looking all hot and bothered (squee!). No Rolo in sight, no Viletta, Geassed intelligent team telling him they didn't know where Lelouch Lamperouge is... Of course he'd know right away something was wrong. I damn sure wuould too if I was in his shoes. Aha~ (Lloyd's style)
   
9. NUNNALLY IS THE ULTIMATE LIE-DETECTOR!!!! She can tell that people are lying if she holds their hands and hear them answer her questions. Har har har... She tried to do the same to Suzaku, but Suzaku retracted his hand REALLY fast before she could catch him lying. "
   
10. Suzaku to Nunnally: "I won't lie to you"... BIIIIIGG LIIEEE!!! Meh.
    
11. Nunnally to Suzaku: "You're the same as Onii-sama"  <<< When he pulled his hand away.
    
12. Nunnally to Romeyer: "The Governess (Governor-General)... is ME." <<<< Another WIN factor of Turn 15~
13. Nina's Nuke has been tested... and proven effective. Schneizel and the rest of the team congratulated her. Well, I hate that the Nuke spoiler sounds like it's becoming true.
14. Schneizel to Nina: "You're really a genius". <<<< Dammit Schneizel, you just keep brainwashing the crazy girl!
15. Viletta and Ougi met, had a talk, mainly Viletta asking him why would he save an officer (herself) of the Britannian army. Sayoko interrupted (well, Viletta was technically pointing the gun at Ougi), got into a duel with Viletta. Ougi tried to stop them, protected Viletta and fell down the cliff... Viletta went after him. (I so love OugiViletta!!!) To be continued, for this couple...
16. Rolo freaked out. He finally noticed Lulu was nowhere to be found.
17. Rolo fed the 'This is Zero's order' and 'This place is the Britannian secret base operation' shit to the OoBK members, who are now having HUGE doubts about Zero.
    
18. Jeremiah is one compassionate hottie man, and I'm a happy fangirl~
    
19. NO CORNELIA!!!!!!! T____T
20. Lulu to CC: "Your true wish... I know what it is." <<<< Evil cliffhanger!
    
21. CC REALLY LOST HER MEMORY!!! She became the girl she was before she became immortal.
    

*sigh*

I now understand why they said 'CC lived a life of a normal girl after the end of her years as a slave'. She was a typical... girl, who worried about her appearance, her relationship with others, bla bla bla. I'm glad I know the current CC first before the 'human' her. I would have not liked her then than I like her now :)

Extra Discussion Points:

1. About Geass User and the contractor. At this point, it seems like one big chain from point A to Point B, and then from B to C and so on. I got the impression that:

In the case where A is the contractor and B is the user:

• A is immortal
• A and  B make a pact
• B agreed to whatever term A asks for in return of the power
• In the end, A tells B that B has been deceived all this time
• B is required to kill A
• B kills A
• B becomes immortal
• B becomes a contractor
• B makes a pact with C
• And the same cycle shall repeat.

Maybe that's what happened to CC. But in the case where a contractor made a pact with more than one users, what exactly are they aiming for?

And Charles... Something BIG apparently happened to him and VV, and it looks like the one who couldn't control Charles is VV and not the other way around. And so... I guess it's confirmed that even if a user only has Geass on one eye, it will eventually spread to the other eye (like what happened to CC, and perhaps Charles too?). And then what?

2. CC said it's the end of the contract. Lelouch used Shinkirou to destroy the fancy platform Sword of Akasha. When they reappeared in the cult, Lelouch's eyes are normal and CC lost her memory. Is Lulu's Geass gone too now?????

Now I've said what I want to say... Please discuss? And bring up whatever fact/points I forgot to mention too :D

And I end this with a shot of angry!Suzaku, who looks so hot when he's angry :D

Comments

[misteline.livejournal.com]

Suzaku and Kallen need to have sex like NOW.

IAWTC. ♥

[tenshi789.livejournal.com]

AHAHA LOL

[seynee.livejournal.com]

OH YES.

[gatekeepers-21.livejournal.com]

Oh geass, I had to watch this twice, and I'm still confused.

So who was Lelouch talking to in the World of C?

Since CC's geass is gone, does that mean Sharuru took her Code, just like VV? Is he like uber immortal now >_>; Does that mean Lelouch's contract is broken? And when the heck did she forget her memories because after the dancy-Sharuru move she had enough sense to free Lelouch... were they like fading or something :/

My head hurts.

[lulu-quality.livejournal.com]

Also, no one said this, but V.V. DIED ;_: HE'S AS DEAD AS A DOORKNOB I'm going to seriously miss everyone's favorite Uncle man-child T______T

[starryburst.livejournal.com]

Wait what. I did not catch this. *goes to watch episode again*

[tanaiel.livejournal.com]

I wonder why Lelouch's Geass would be gone though. He could have lost it when C.C became mortel/lost her memory, but then wouldn't have Rolo lost his Geass when V.V died? Or did Rolo get to keep it, because the immortality got transfered to Charles?
And if Lelouch lost it, does that mean C.C's immortality got completely destroyed? Or maybe Lelouch became immortal.... Hn, complicated as hell.@_@
Guess the next few episodes will tell.

I loved the episode though. Rolo's nii-san is as cute as ever and Orange-kun is loyal to a fault (love him though). Neli's captured. :( And C.C an adorable ten year old.
I loved that Suzaku didn't do it. It was just way out of character.
And Viletta met Ougi, eh? I guess the OotBK betraying Zero is just getting more and more likely. *sighs* If they do that I hope they burn in hell.
Nunally kicked ass though, way to go girl.
And I hope Kallen will finally get out of that freaking glas tube thingy. What is she? An exhibit?

[tenshi789.livejournal.com]

Maybe Rolo lost his Geass too- we don't know.

GO NUNNALLY

[gdmcrjunkie.livejournal.com]

Oh wait, is Lelouch immortal now? Did they somehow manage to pull it off without C.C. dying? Show his forehead!

[lulu-quality.livejournal.com]

I JUST KEEPING POSTING:

New random notes
-Did anyone think young!Charles looked like Nunnally from behind? Seriously? And he's also the younger sibling.
-I wonder how long Nunnally has known Lelouch is lying to her. She always asks to hold his hand. Suzaku's, too, now that I think about it. And when she asked Suzaku if Euphy was at fault for the massacre she was holding his hand too! WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?!
-Where's Marianne? I want Marianne! And who's the omniscient mask? Is that a god? I'm so confused >_<
-C.C. said something at the end about "disposing of bodies as well." WHAT BODIES?
-asdfghjkliojGAH;!!!!
-Trippy animation in the beginning was trippy
-SO THAT'S WHAT THE CODE IN CODE GEASS IS!!! I GET IT NOW!!!!
-Damocles as in the "Sword of Damocles"? Where the one with the highest authority is in the maximum level of danger?
-What is this one person business? This better not end with Taniguchi waking up to discover it was all a crazy acid trip dream >_>

[tenshi789.livejournal.com]

Wait what I still don't know what "Code" is for.

C.C. was like to Lelouch "Yeah I have experience in taking cares of cows, goats, and cleaning dead bodies" or something

[the-quantum-cat.livejournal.com]

So Britannia now has an immortal emperor and the bomb, while Lelouch has amnesiac!C.C. and a disaffected OotBK.

It's going to take a deus ex machina to swings things his way. Fortunately, he CG is full of them...

[the-quantum-cat.livejournal.com]

Oh, wait. The Emperor wants to destroy the *deus*.

[mossygirl.livejournal.com]

This was like, seriously, the best episode of the second season for me (so far XD), mostly for all the C.C. stuff going on. We've only been waiting, what, 40 episodes to see her past? I spent at least half the episode going "KYAAA!" I feel less worried now about the writers being able to end the show decently; things are really moving along.

Also, Nunally rocks as of this episode ^_^

[strike-x-slash.livejournal.com]

CHARLES REALLY IS IMMORTAL!!!!!

Yeah, but he wasn't always immortal. He borrowed V.V.'s geass mark (the source of the immortality) because he knew Lelouch would try to kill him in the world of C or whatever it's called. He probably knew Lulu would geass him and knows that he can't be geassed a second time. Smart, save for the fact that if Lulu's geass still works, Orange can reverse the first geass and he can get geassed again. If V.V. hadn't died, I'm sure Charles would've given him the geass mark back lol.

Her wish, is for her existence to end

That's what she tells people, but Lelouch realizes that's not her true wish. From what I understand, she wants to be happy. When Charles was draining her life (lol chi vampire), Lulu said "I'm going to make you smile" and then she shoved Charles away. Maybe she had a fake wish that was easier to grant than her real one (dying), and Lulu offered to grant her real wish (to smile), so she decides to not die?

I think Charles drained C.C.'s memories and geass mark while he was sucking the life out of her, that's the only reason I can come up with for their disappearance. Or maybe he took her geass mark so that he can be immortalx2 and piss Lulu off.

I always thought Charles got his geass from V.V., turns out he didn't. Also, V.V. didn't have the geass mark when he was a kid. I guess this means V.V. went through something like C.C. did and went through the whole thing with getting a geass and killing his contractor. I wonder who it was. How did the two brothers get involved with geass anyway? >__>

Lastly, Lulu's geass. Is it gone, or did it reset itself? NO ONE KNOWS LOL.

[chickee1.livejournal.com]

I like this theory. Guess they both made a contract at the same time, then one of them had to decide who would take over from the contractor (marrianne?)

[http://users.livejournal.com/drag0n_/]

Wow this episode blew my mind. Had to watch it twice too >_<;

Uh, I hope we still get to hear C.C's old voice. I'm not liking the different pitch...

[mrpanadabear.livejournal.com]

So many of the mysteries came to light!~

I luffed this episode so much.

I'm pretty sure Lulu is going say something to the effect of that C.C.'s true wish is to be loved or something like that.

>.> New Knight of Rounds next week!~

[mrpanadabear.livejournal.com]

Lelouch's way of trying to Geass Charles ("I, Lelouch vi Britannia order you to drop dead lol die!" (TRYING to is the keyword) is absolutely awesome! Reminds me of Kanda (DGM) when he faced Skin Boric :P

Except that Kanda actually does kill Skin Boric. ^____^

[faye-naruse.livejournal.com]

When Lelouch thought he had seriously killed Charles, I couldn't help but think that Lulu was being an idiot T_T
Me: It's a triiick!!!
After all he's been through, of course it wouldn't be so easy! I spent a lot of the episode fearing for Lulu's life, as foolish as that may be of me XD

I wanted to see chibi!Charles!!! ;___;
Seeing Kanon again made me smile, I really want him to be there more so he can cross dress and flirt with Schneizel :]

mainly Viletta
Just thought I should mention that I seriously thought you said manly XD

Is Lulu's Geass gone too now????
Didn't even occur to me o.o NONONONONO *scared for Lulu's life*

Also, yes, angry!Suzaku is ♥ better than constantlybroody!Suzaku anyway :P

[haiiro.livejournal.com]

I thought the same thing about Lelouch. XD I was all "LELOUCH YOU IDIOT!!!"

[schizofragile.livejournal.com]

After seeing this an epiphany came to me

the final boss(es) is(are) Marianne/(and) Nunnally. I HAVE THIS CREEPY FEELING ABOUT NUNNALLY'S "You're lying like nii-san >[" and l;dskf;lsdf I am scareeeed shitless :S LOL

[cheezmonke.livejournal.com]

Imagine if Nunally's not even really blind, but she was geassed 'not' to see or something, and then Orenji comes in with his Geass reverser and BAM "SUPRISE BITCHES, I SEE JOOO" >:D

...i guess everyone has a crack theory, right? lol

[schizofragile.livejournal.com]

AND AND AND



CG does no good for my brain ;~;

[recodes.livejournal.com]

OMG, WE THINK ALIKE! I WAS TELLING MY HOUSEMATE THE SAME THING TOO AFTER THE EPISODE: "I'm convinced his mark is on his butt. Or around his belly button (more creative, no?)!!"

[leitao.livejournal.com]

Back to CC's contract with Lulu and her wish... Her wish, is for her existence to end (?).

I thought the ep. implied that her true wish was just to be loved, truly loved, and not because of her Geass( Lelouch knew this because he'd seen her memories, etc.). Which is why, at the last moment, she backed out of the whole "Charles killing her" thing, because she doesn't truly want to die, I think. o_o

Nunnally wins this episode

[furato.livejournal.com]

I like how she hesitates before saying "the Governor-General is ME" line. It's a smooth transition from Lelouch's little weak sister to Princess Nunnally vi Britannia. Nunnally is so gonna rule Britannia by the time this is all over.

Re: Nunnally wins this episode

[tomoyohime8.livejournal.com]

i agree. i think she'd make a great queen.

[chiapetzukamori.livejournal.com]

about lulu losing his geass....while that would be a veeery interesting twist in the story, I don't think it's likely.

He had plenty of time to put the contact lens back in before C.C. woke up - remember he said that he had called Rolo? So if he had time to do that, he could've covered his eye too, which would make sense since people were coming their way and he wouldn't want to accidently geass someone.

Sunrise probably just didn't show us that because they wanted people to freak out ^_~

[loser-withclaws.livejournal.com]

I want to know what went on with that crazy nun.

She's the one who gave C.C. the scar on her breast; was that just some random act of violence (because she was, you know, a loony) or is that some kind of symbol that makes you a Geass-giver...? The winged one, the one on her forehead and Charles' hand, I would guess just makes you immortal, because I don't think Charles can give anyone a Geass. O.o Can he?

And does she still HAVE that scar, anyway? In the Turn 16 preview it doesn't look it's there anymore.
-brain fizzle-

[-beliel.livejournal.com]

I was under the impression that C.C.s true wish wasn't to die.... but to be loved? Didn't she say something like that? Cause that was like... her Geass, to make people love her. And wasn't it said that her Geass gave her what she wanted? And when Lulu said that he knew her true wish he went to say something else and she suddenly pulled away from Charles?

I don't know... -_-

[neko-astrid.livejournal.com]

DAMNIT I'M LATE! FUCK...ANYWAY....

ok i'm happy for all the V/O fans out there but on a plot subject.....all I can say is damn..they totally screwed over C.C. oh and I completly predicted that her wish was to die...its always like that with immortals.. after a while living just sucks. this episode was one shocker after another, the whole mess with charles and V.V. i'm not sure what C.C menat about taking V.Vs (what was it mark) but it seem that he's become a contractor.

so i supose thats the whole "life of solitude" thing. you have the power of geass but in the end you become a contractor which isolates you from everyone. as for C.C forgetting well that seems like it was triggered by Lulu getting trigger happy ( or should I say key happy?...) with his knightmare. Poor C.C she got all timid and scared. it was really sad to see. also the whole memory recap and long emotional talk after was a total LuLu and C.C moment those two are gonna end up a cannon couple.

on funnier note, laughed when suzaku got slaped and then chickened out, even though I think he's a bastard for trying it in the first place. when the camera view changed it sounded like he was trying to rape her O,O , I half expected for someone to come running in. its sad that it takes the thought of him acting like zero in any way to get him to stop. I supose it the whole "taking away free will" thing.

oh and nunnaly totally stuck up for herself, girls growing some backbone YOSH!