Can a Geass be removed?

[danny-roboguy.livejournal.com]

We all know that a Geass effect can be cancelled, but can a Geass itself be removed or negated without the possesor being killed or a transfer of the Code?

So far the only solution I've came up with is if Lelouch commanded another Geass user to never use his/her geass ever again. What do you guys think?

Comments

[spleener.livejournal.com]

It's never shown to be possible for an outright removal, though Charles' memoryfuck did seal Lulu's geass, which is kinda close?

There are a lot of aspects of the rules surrounding geass and codes that aren't stated.

[konart.livejournal.com]

pull out both eyes?

[katlovescookies.livejournal.com]

...how morbid but IAWTC XD

[snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com]

I've always wondered if ripping out someone's eyes would remove their Geass...

I'm fairly sure it would work for Lelouch, anyway, as he needs eye contact (same as Emperor Charles and... possibly Marianne?) , but perhaps not for Mao or Rolo)

[danny-roboguy.livejournal.com]

Well does the Geass actually manifest itself in eyes or is that just a symbolism sort of thing?

Speaking of Mao, Lelouch once asked C.C why didn't she take back the Geass, and she never really said that she couldn't, but I'm wondering if she could take back Geass without killing or giving up the code.

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I don't think she can take back the Geass... but maybe she can sort of suppress it so that you won't be able to use it using her connection with the world of C... but that's just speculation...

[danny-roboguy.livejournal.com]

You said she could suppress it. Even if it is just speculation. How so?

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

CC could show up traumatic scenes in Suzaku's mind. According to an interview she also recorded Lelouch's memories with the kiss she gave him in ep 25 and retransferred them in him with the kiss she gave him in R2 ep 1. It might be due to her connection with the world of C she can affect the brain. The Geass is controlled by the brain (and my guess is it's also connected witht he world of C since when Lelouch ended in Kaminejima his Geass evolved faster at least according to another interview).
So if CC were to mess up with the brain through her connection with the world of C I think she might affect the Geass.
It's always going back to the brain. How much it can witstand? How badly she can affect it through her connection with the world of C?
How strong is the Geass user or the one who fell as a victim of the Geass?

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

she also recorded Lelouch's memories with the kiss she gave him in ep 25 and retransferred them in him with the kiss she gave him in R2 ep 1.
See, I don't get that. If she backed up his memories outside the cave and reloaded them in Turn 1, how come Lelouch got back all those memories that he had in between C.C. leaving to fight Jeremiah and Daddy's mindrape? The memories of the gunfight and Suzaku selling him out were backed up nowhere. As far as I can tell, someone or something literally broke Charles' geass.

I know that the canon explanation (somewhere) is that the kiss was a memory backup, but it still makes no sense to me. -_-

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I don't either so here's the explanation I thought.
She made a memory back up and passed it to Lelouch.
Receiving it Lelouch found the purpose/will/energy/whatever to break free from the Geass his father put on him. Breaking free he recovered all the memories in between.
In short the memory's backup was the tiny hole that, in the end, broke the dam...
After all it might have been difficult for Lelouch to muster the will to free himself from his father's Geass if he hadn't known the truth... a bit like Euphy needs to see Suzaku to fight Lelouch's Geass and Nunnally needs to find Damocles' key at any cost to overcome her father's Geass as well...
CC's back up just gives Lelouch the reason to fight the Geass off.
But that's just my speculation.

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

I guess that's a good way to think of it. So Charles' geass is less of a memory "rewrite" as much of a memory "detour". The memories are still there within the individual. However, the victim's thoughts are simply diverted from those memories and made to believe something else. However, if the individual believes strongly enough that those blocked memories exist, they can overcome the blockage.

a bit like Euphy needs to see Suzaku to fight Lelouch's Geass
Huh? The two times his "Live!" geass activated, he didn't fight it at all. In fact, he never fights his geass. It either takes complete hold of him, or he actively uses it to his advantage.

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I think so. The memories aren't completely erased or distorted... they're kind of simply covered up with false ones. Remove the cover and you get the original.

Huh? I wasn't talking about Suzaku but Euphy. She had been ordered to kill all the Japanese. She know Suzaku's one of them and she should kill him but, when she sees him she kind of manage to ignore that order, to push it away from her mind. It might be she was dying... but also that her 'don't hurt Suzaku' will gave her the strenght to fight Lelouch's Geass...

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

My bad, I completely misread that line.

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

It's okay, it happens... ^___________^

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I guess it can be kind of defeated as Euphy managed to overcome it when she saw Suzaku an the same can apply for Nunnally.
Lelouch got CC's help to overcome the one posted on him...
However, in Euphy's case i don't know for how long she would manage to keep the Geass under control... I guess it's a matter of will... also, since the Geass acts on the brain and she was dying it might be the damage her brain was sustaining 'erased' Lelouch's Geass...

[danny-roboguy.livejournal.com]

So "Brain Damage"?

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

Yep, I think brain damage would work... Maybe also amnesia but I'm not sure... it might depend from the Geass... (and amnesia might involve brain damage so we would be back to square one...)

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

That's a theory I came up with. I mean, it even stated in canon that the geass itself causes brain damange.

And remember, Lelouch's geass was 'removed' from his eye after the mindrape between the seasons.

So, I think this: if you remove the memory of getting the geass then the geass goes away.

[danny-roboguy.livejournal.com]

Another thing, anyone think there is a slight possiblity a Geass ability could be stolen from C.C. Like she accidentally gives up an ability without creating a contract.

Like a C.C slip up?

[jjblue1.livejournal.com]

I'll go back to first season, when she showed Suzaku traumatic things and Lelouch, touching her had the same vision.
So maybe if she were busy giving someone a Geass it might be that someone else coming in contect with her would receive Geass as well.
The same happened for the people she entered in contact with when Lelouch lost control of her Geass.
However this is just another speculation of mine...

[mirkitsune.livejournal.com]

Perhaps amnesia?

Basing it on the fact that Charles erased Lelouch's memory and altered things via mindrape, perhaps all one has to do is forget about the existence of Geass? If they don't know what it is, they don't know how to use it, even if they have it.