Episode 20 Discussion

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I have been remiss in my self-set duties of trying to keep up on episode discussions. I got distracted by all the spoilers and was less interested in the now. I shall remedy that tonight.

Note: This rundown is slightly more fan-ish than recent ones because I had more time to let it sink in.



I agree with many people that 20 did not have enough Lelouch. I adore Euphemia, and Suzaku in fighting mode is always a thing of beauty, but I do need a good chunk of Lelouch because them alone is not quite as gripping. I guess having the scenes with him in the Gawain made up for it almost. I think I about died when I realized Lelouch was hardly doing *anything* the whole time and that C.C. was doing all the work. I think Lulu pushed the button for the lasers. Didn't one of the magazines say something about how although Gawain is a two-pilot Knightmare, it doesn't really need the second pilot? Wait to go, Lulu. That pimp shot of him stealing the thunder for all of C.C.'s skills is the stuff cracky dreams are made out of. Also, Gawain could probably *eat* Lancelot. No wonder it needs C.C. to pilot it. The thing's ginormous. I did think Suzaku was a little too eager to work with Zero, considering he saw him threatening Euphemia with a gun in the episode before. I would chalk it up to some effect of his Geass, but it seemed that Gawain's arrival interrupted his dip into Geass mode. Let's not go into how Gawain and Lancelot are totally the greatest OTP evar!

Then when have Suzaku and Euphemia. First, I want to say it's too bad the timeslot forces the episode to move faster because I would have definitely liked to see Suzaku trying to defend himself at his court marshal, after the Geass incident. Why did Schneizel let him off so easy? I predict foul play at work. Also, the "I give back my knighthood and then reclaim it 20 minutes later" makes the action fairly pointless. I mean, was he even a non-knight for more than a day? The only benefit from that randomness is it led to some somber introspection from Euphemia. I enjoyed her struggle between wanting to avenge Clovis while wanting to save Lelouch and Nunnally. I also thought she was going to implode with brotherly love when she saw Lelouch and Suzaku working together. Euphemia is so cute. Even if she is almost as much of a dork as her brother. Seriously, woman, you do not confess your love while your boyfriend is in the heat of battle. I love how Suzaku was all "Uh... kind of busy here..." and then ends up agreeing to Euphemia's "order" to love him because he's in battle mode. Oh the dialogue. Again, I love Euphie, but that dialogue. Ow ow ow. And the worst part was the entire time Suzaku is letting her go on and on and then trying to reassure her, he knows he's a dead man. It's like "Aww, you're sweet. Oh did I mention I ran out of power and am gonna die now? Sorry about that. ;_;" Suzaku, you ass. The ending scene did improve on the dialogue though, as Suzaku's happy smile and "Yes, your highness" sent giddy chills up my spine.

Also love for the competition between Laksharta and Pudding Earl.

I would comment on the Nina/Euphie scene, but all I have to say is that I think Nina thought she was getting through to Euphemia about her crush at the end there. She is going to throttle Suzaku at the pizza party. ^_~


As usual, bring up your own topics on the episode and go wild.

Comments

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Best post ever.
Yes, that episode was ALL kinds of love.
I think I peed myself when C.C. and Lulu showed up in Gawain.

"Pudding Earl" I love you for this!!!!!!!!!

Nina/Euphie was kinda ew...I'll never look at Nina the same, after the table-humping episode. Poor Euphie...
I loved how everyone was awesome/dorky in this episode. My squee level was OVER 9000!!!!!

[spleener.livejournal.com]

I expected Nina to be more "creepy stalker"-ey than she was when talking to Euphie, IMO.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Okay, yeah. Wild Suzaku/Euphie lover that I am (and I have yet to come up with a horrendous ship name yet. Suzuphie? Euzaku just sounds like Lancelot screwed a ZAKU. Perhaps I'm doomed to type out all thirteen letters of "Suzaku/Euphie"), I loved this episode. I thought the confession was adoribly dorky. It reminded me, in a way, of Lelouch's "Suzaku was the first friend I ever had" -- well, he's also, presumably, the first person Euphie's fallen in love with, so I can excuse her for, uh, how sweetly silly the confession was.

And. Yeah. Them working together. What the fuck? It would have been better without the music. Or if Suzaku occasionally tried to shoot Gawain. Like, Gawain drifts down, Suzaku tries to shoot it and has no power.

Suzaku: Are you here to fuck shit up, too, Zero?
Lelouch: No. And you're out of power. Shut up and take my big package like a man.
Suzaku: ... well, okay, as long as I tried and you're not going to pull anything on Britannia.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

I wanted Nina to be Euphie's first kiss. :(

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I heard Laksharta laughing about that nickname and how he beat her at the Float System, but she owned him when it came to the Gejfun Disturber. I want to see more of those two randomly competing with their mech inventions. I wonder if they take pictures of them to share with each other when they meet on the street or something and talk smack about the other. I could see Lloyd doing an almost-Hughes impression as he talks about how awesome Lancelot is.

I was actually irked when Gawain first showed off because I wanted to see Suzaku in Geass mode again. But when I saw the set up inside the Knightmare, all that frustration... GONE.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I guess Lulu geassed Suzaku really good, if it pops out here and there.
One thing I can't get about Pudding Earl is...WHY does he have to get married???
Lancelot/Lloyd/Laksharta/Gawain ALL THE WAY, BABY!!!

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Ow! I just threw up a little in my mouth. :(

[hylarn.livejournal.com]

You know, so far all of Scheizels plans seem to involve Suzaku dying. Then Lulu saves him.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Euzaku just sounds like Lancelot screwed a ZAKU.

I actually liked the name until I read the rest of the sentence. Now I can't even think it without nearly dying of laughter.

It was a little like Lelouch's saparific speech. Must be a Britannian thing to express your feeling as clumsily and adorkably as possible.

It would have been pretty friggin' hilarious had Suzaku tried to shoot Gawain every once in a while and run out of power. I would have gone for that just to see the ultra-irritated look on Lelouch's face.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

"Shut up and take my big package like a man."

*dies laughing*

This post is turning into ALL Kinds of awesome!!!!

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

No way~. It would have been a kiss on the cheek and totally cute. If Shirley can feel up Kallen in the bath, Nina could have kissed Euphie quickly.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Somehow it would have been oddly cute if Nina suddenly dipped in and pecked her on the lips. And poor Euphemia's so nice, she'd probably be embarrassed and not know what to do.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

LOL!
And double ow, you reminded me of Picture book 3.5 that I am desperately trying to erase from my mind, lol.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Schneizel is a BL fan. It was easy for him to get Euphie a private line because he'd been spying on Suzaku the whole time, waaaaaiting for Gawain to show up and propose to Lancelot.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Ohhh! You're right!!! I think Shitzel is going to have much more surprises up his sleeve!!!

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I think it's just a lasting effect since it's so simple. Lelouch's short-lived Geasses tend to be more exact. "Forget you saw anything." "Ignore me while I'm here." "Help us escape with all your strength." "Give me your Knightmare." Live has a wider interpretation.

Lancelot/Lloyd/Laksharta/Gawain ALL THE WAY, BABY!!!
Talk about a literal mech orgy! XD

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

It's worse when you consider that a ZAKU is like four times as big as Lancelot. Geass has tiny sexy rollerblading mechs. :(

Britannia slacked off on its "public speaking" classes with Euphie and Lelouch. I imagine it's because Cornelia used hers to make Clovis cry when they were kids, and someone decided that sobbing heirs-to-the-throne were more trouble than rhetoric lessons were worth.

Ooh, or Suzaku could have fired his last shot at Gawain and missed. And Lelouch offers a SECOND CHANCE because he's Zero and just that sexy.

[atemu-mana.livejournal.com]

Really, I just don't get it. How can Suzaku fight and at the same time hearing Euphie order him to love her? If I were Suzaku, I just stop. Lol~~!

And Suzuphie is a nice name.

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Oh and you totally missed the best simple Geass EVAR.

"MAO!!!! SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!"

[nayami.livejournal.com]

It makes you think, does it? XD

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Amen!

[nayami.livejournal.com]

*dies a thousand times over*

You really do bring all the crack to the yard, you realize? XD But the way the sentence was worded, it was really asking for it.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Damn. How could I forget Lelouch saying the one thing I was SCREAMING for two episodes straight?

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

Picture book 3.5 was. Wow. Pretty special, yeah. XD

But Lelouch, Suzaku, Millay, Nina, Shirley, and Kallen have been completely naked already (Kallen three times, what), and Viletta has been topless. Cornelia and Euphie are getting shafted here.

[nayami.livejournal.com]

I loved that extra on so many levels. I love when Nina is ready to stab him at the end because Suzaku is so oblivious.