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[vehemence.livejournal.com]

In light of episodes 22 and 23 [SPOILERS FOR THESE EPISODES], I wanted to see what other people think about



Some little thoughts:
Lelouch
From the beginning people have been calling Geass the crack addicted lovechild of Death Note and Gundam Seed. Or something like that. So the question is, will Lulu follow the path of Raito and end up a drooling, pathetic mess thrashing around on the ground while all his "friends" watch in horror/disgust? The way I see it, the boy is doomed. With the Death Note, there was always a strong element of choice. Every time Raito picked up the pen, he was making the choice all over again. But Lulu only made the choice once-- when he received the Geass. He can't undo that or make it go away. The only hope of redemption I see for him lies in Nunally, who is arguably the crucial factor which his sanity hangs upon. As long as she's alive and there to go "Nii-san... will you be home for dinner? *Weep* I miss you!" Lulu will stay strong. But Sunrise is practically shoving Lulu's descent into evil down our throats, all the mad cackling and twisted grins. And the fact that he has successfully alienated himself (through lies/manipulation/killing/etc) from almost every single one of his friends/allies, even if those friends/allies haven't realized it yet. Seems as though C.C. is the only who is truely on his side, knowing everything that he is and his true identity and shaitz, but even C.C. I am starting to doubt. Midway through ep. 23, when he is alone in that room with her, he shows a rare moment of weakness, and she comforts him. She says, "The one who will always be with you will always be me." I got shivers. Did she not promise almost the exact same thing to Mao?? I don't have past eps. on my computer but I seem to remember her saying something like that to a weepy child!Mao. And then after that in the hall she said Lelouch's mother's name to herself, "Marianne", WTF??? Now it's not that I don't trust her... okay, I just don't trust her. I don't think she'll be Lulu's ally to the end in this mess. I think we are in for some mind shattering revelations. Mind shattering for Lulu, that is.

So there's my rambing 2 cents on Lulu... and now,

Suzaku
Suzaku keeps surprising me. In the beginning I expected him to be a really straightforward Kira-type, who will angst and moan and then go kick some ass in his Gundam Knightmare. But the dark past... PATRICIDE!!... getting hit with some weird Geass effect by C.C. (which I still don't understand)... and now losing his er, one true love at the hands of the person who he will inevitably discover is actually his secret gay lover best friend!?! Someone needs to go stuff this boy into a CLAMP manga where he can murder Subaru and take his place as the new Sakurazukamori. *Cough* So anyways, I think Suzaku is better off in this than Lelouch. He has better coping skills, and no Geass to addle his brains.

Thoughts?

Comments

[euphyi.livejournal.com]

I'm not so sure that Lulu is so much descending into evil as standing by the choices he made in the beginning of the series. (agreeing to bear the "loneliness of the king"..) He's far from stupid, and his goal in the first place was never precisely noble- sure, creating a safe world for his sister is one thing, but I always got the impression that he realised this was a selfish thing- in his mind at least he was never in a position of high and mighty righteousness. He was always an avenger. Possibly things have escalated beyond his calculations- I'm sure he never meant to cause Euphie's death, but it sure looks like he's been planning to attack Tokyo for a while now- but things happen, and he's dealing with them despite his personal feelings. ah Lulu you're so manly

What happens after he's accomplished what he's set out to do is another matter.. I can't see him enjoying the spoils of empire because he's not the leader type who inspires personal devotion and loyalty. But for that reason I think CC may stick with him. They're quite alike, layering ruthlessness and cold calculation over human vulnerability.. she might abandon him, but only if he gives up on her first. (or maybe that's just the fangirl in me speaking)

Suzaku suprised me muchly too. I think I'd hate him a lot more if I didn't get the feeling that he wasn't really in control of himself.. in a time when Lulu's losing his grip on his purpose, Suzaku's gained one, but he's transformed himself into a new person to hold it. I can't really see a happy ending for him..