As for Lelouch...

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Random mutterings/speculations I decided to post since they're slightly more invoking of responses than the usual musings I have on my journal.



I wonder how long Lelouch had been planning to take out that portion of Tokyo because the setup couldn't have tied into last minute planning. I think it had something to do with what the Knights were talking about near the start of 21. It seems awfully convenient that the only people visibly in the area when Lelouch purges it are Britannian military. Some people speculate Britannia evacuated the area, but even if that's the case, laying the material for that sort of takedown would require some time. So this was something he had in mind before Euphemia's announcement of the Special Administration Zone? The events of 22 and 23 forced his hand to wipe out the area faster than he'd been anticipating. I wonder how long he would have delayed had Euphemia not made her announcement. Did it even matter when it came to that? Taking this into account, the massive carnage at the end of 22 and 23 (the part done by the Knights) doesn't seem that extreme since they were gearing up for it regardless. The only thing that appears to have changed was killing Euphemia, having an easier way to announce the United States of Japan and of course being ready to take on Suzaku. It doesn't make Lelouch any less power-crazed at the end when he's reveling in all the destruction; it just means he would have done it anyway. Also, it's obvious the creators have been preparing for this scene for a while since the scrolling timer has been in the OP since day one.

I've been wondering what will happen to Lelouch after seeing the speed-sub, probably not the best of things to use for my analysis. Lelouch says something about having to say goodbye to everyone since he can no longer control his geass. Obviously this refers to the student council but what about Nunnally? What does he intend to do about her? The twisted part of me started thinking that perhaps Lelouch intends to kill "himself." And by himself, I mean "Lelouch." There is the title for 25 being "Zero" to take into account. Maybe Lelouch is at the point where he's convinced himself that the only way he can realize his goals and keep from fucking up anything else he still cares about is to give in completely to this cold rebel leader persona he established for himself. Zero isn't supposed to care about matters of the heart. This further worries me as he may see bringing down Suzaku as a major step in this "death" of his former self. Such as why severing the ties between them during that phone call was so important. I still don't think Lelouch has a chance against Suzaku, but it distresses me nonetheless. Lelouch seems to be in this half-sane but the dark kind and half-crazy but the driven kind state of mind right now. He's taken his role-play to a much more dangerous level.

So what do you all think? Y? N? GTFO?


And because I feel bad about posting such downer material on April Fool's, a little reminder:

Comments

[zalem.livejournal.com]

I was thinking exactly the same thing about him taking out the Tokyo Settlement. There's just no way in between the chaos of 22 and 23 that he would have had time to plant all that crap. He had to have done that way ahead of time. Which of course means he was planning on doing this all along. Of course, had his geass not gone wonky then maybe he would have aborted this plan. But it was definitely set even before the events of the latest episodes.

I do wonder at whether or not Britannia had time to evacuate the area. On one hand, they know that it's going to be the front line of a huge battle. It wouldn't make sense to let citizens remain in the area. On the other hand, maybe they didn't even have enough time.

[innocentwater.livejournal.com]

I am way too out of it to do much original speculating, but seeing Eyepatch Lulu says to me that there will come an increase in Gay Pirate Lulu fanart*. Captain Morgan Lulu needs to make an appearance.

*a straight/bi pirate Lulu is fine too.

[tatooine.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure the "purge" stuff is as extreme as it looked. First, it takes place on the edge of the ghetto (you see Gawain hovering over a dark, messy looking area; the light of the Tokyo settlement shows up further away, there's also a yellow line on Gawain's schematic reading). Second, it appears to have been fairly limited -- when the "purge" layout appears in its entirety, it comes from two edges pushing inward, suggesting that the two areas rushing in to meet each other have starting points at the edge of the ghetto and a little ways in to the settlement -- probably to counter, as Cornelia said, the fact that "the Tokyo Settlement can be considered a fortress." When you consider that only a very small region was being affected (the purge happens along very small, clean plates, as you see when the tanks are getting shoved around, and there aren't too many plates getting screwed up in the schematic diagram, when you remember how small they are), it's easier to imagine that it's taking place along the area Cornelia has concentrated her army in, which you can figure she's evacuated citizens from, even if she wouldn't evacuate the entire city.

... at the end of the tl;dr, I don't think the mayhem was as extensive as it might have looked, so it would have required less planning. Also, it can't have affected all of Tokyo, or Ashford and Nunnally would have been wiped out, too.

That said, I hope de-amnesia'd!Viletta hops in a Knightmare and starts using the radar system against Lelouch the way he did in episode two.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I heard that Code Geass was entirely plotted out before they committed production, which is a lesson certain other Sunrise staffers could learn. *growl* It does explain why they were so patient with taking over Japan; while we were going "Hells. How is he going to pull THIS off if the stalemates keep going nowhere in that direction?" the team knew they had the Euphemia card, to rally Japan under Zero with no questions asked. And now that you mention it...gods, that OP counting number is REALLY creepy in context.

At the start of the series, I expected Lelouch would say goodbye to Nanaly but 'killing' himself. Announcing his own death in some battle. It's not like he hasn't done it before (and it would be extremely ironic, being stuck in THAT is a huge part of why he's doing this). Right now...? I'm not sure. There's not a lot of point to killing 'Lelouch' to Nanaly now, does it? Might end the problem of where Lelouch Lamperouge is going to end up now, certainly Ashford Academy's existence is not compatible with his new Japan (another irony : he hates how the Emperor betrayed his family, and he's betraying the only family that's ever nice to him in this. One more shitty effect of the Perma-Geass, eh?), and Zero is now stepping up into spotlight...killing Lelouch would be convenient to his friendships. But his cover's already blown and it seems he knows it in that phone conversation. If the info leaks, Nanaly's in danger. Suzaku might not, Cornelia might not, other people might. And if the Geass is the reason he has to say goodbye? The Geass won't work on Nanaly. She's blind. (I have always thought her blindness is totally significant...he can't even tell her to forget, heh)

So he might play death to the rest of his friends. But to Nanaly? Somehow I think not...unless something else goes to hell that the creators have yet to spring on us.

[empanadas]

"shut up who cares i have to screw lelouch"? LOL.

Sorry, I'm kinda out of it. xD Anyway, I can't help but think that Lelouch must have planned it all along. I'm suddenly reminded of the ep when he planned to put a bomb under the ship to attack the Britannian forces (and sacrificing the JLF in the process). He was the one who placed the bomb underwater and was fone in advance.

Perhaps he had mapped out the areas in Tokyo and tested them ahead of time? It does sound odd that he would have time in between Episodes 22 and 23, so it could have been done sooner.

With that said, I have a strange feeling that the Lelouch Lamperouge will die metaphorically in Episode 25, only for Zero to fully take over. There will be parts of his humane self, but he's stuck in the path of carnage.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually think that when Lelouch geassed Darlton, he had him go in and screw with the Settlement, or something. Another good point is the 'death' of Lelouch, which is now getting closer to necessary for Lelouch, as he won't be able to maintain both persona anymore after all of this...

[(Anonymous)]

I think its had been planning after Euphie's announcement of the Special Administration Zone since I cant see any reason he will doing this massive destruction before her announcement. He dont has any good reason to give to the public to start the war like this. But that time Euphie's plan was irritated him and if his initial plan goes on ( Euphie shot him & all the Japaneses rebel) it would possible to purge out all the buildings & Brintannia forces.
Im worry that Lelouch will goes to Zero completely too since epi 25 title is 'Zero'. Im thinking it for some time that if Nunally is going to dies then he is completely no way to return anymore. Poor Lelouch & Nunally, I dont want thing to be like this. *0*

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

I think I agree with you on the persona of Zero. I saw Lelouch's statement (I saw the speed sub as well) about removing feelings as being a sign that he sees Zero as a more effective version of himself. Zero is cold, faceless. Zero has only enemies and underlings, not family members who he can hurt accidentally. I saw it as him somewhat deciding to enter that role a little more than he had before. He believes in the ends justifying the means, I think from the beginning, Lelouch decided that if he had to do something terrible to himself to accomplish what he wants, that he would. Transforming himself in to the mask he wears, well, if it works...

I'm also curious how that works for Nunally. After all, there's the irony of the fact that he's doing this for Nunnally. But even if Lelouch does not die, he seems to have a tragic streak - I think the irony of being willing to turn himself into a monster for the ones he loves will come back to interfere somehow. Or, at least, it usually does in these sort of things.

As for that brilliant attack of his, thus far, many of his major victories have been preceeded by using the land against his enemies to off-balance them. It makes sense, given the Britannia's superior numbers, training, and technology, to level the playing field with some dirty tactics. =D But yeah, I don't know how he set this on up either, I think they were just going for the theme of what he's done in the past.

I am all for this eyepatch!Lelouch. Mmm eyepatches~!