2007-04-03 20:45
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My bros and I were discussing the awesomeness of Code Geass, after watching Ep. 23. And we got into the point where we re-stated our disbelief about the whole thing. I mean, although there were spoilers and people around were saying it could happen, I didn't think that it really would.
I mean, she was so popular. I thought there is an unwritten law that good lookin' anime characters, especially those goody pink haired princess, don't turn into slaughtering menaces who gets killed by their brother after. They just don't. But in Code Geass, apparently they could.So we were talking who in Code Geass could suffer the same fate as her? I mean. if Princess Euphemia could die, so could anyone else. Except the dead, 'coz they already dead. Lol
My guesses?
= Cornelia (She'll follow Euphie anywhere. Sisterly love. >.<
= Shirley (She doesn't have anything else to do, I mean what role can she have in the next season?)
= Nina (Because she's freaking me out by the freakin' out she @ Episode 23)
= Villeta (She'll remember the past, and also Zero's identity, so she will really have to die for the Order's sake)
= Diethard (Besides the fact that he has the word 'Die' in his name, he's too fanatical. I'm thinking he'll give his life to save Zero. Definitely a Zero fanboy.)
= Lots and lots of Japanese and Britannian ('Coz Nina will nuke them all!)
For the safe people, or those who are sure to cross over to the second season, I'm sure Lelouch will make it, so will Suzaku. He needs a rival, and Suzaku has long been established to fill that role. C.C. and V.V. 'coz the mysteries cannot be answered by the next two episodes. Schneizel has to live, as there has to be a Britannian royal left living. And Arthur. Definitely. Lol.
So who are your guesses?
(Oh, I apologize in advance for those who are offended by some of my comments. They are products of a caffeine deprived mind.)
My guesses?
= Cornelia (She'll follow Euphie anywhere. Sisterly love. >.<
= Shirley (She doesn't have anything else to do, I mean what role can she have in the next season?)
= Nina (Because she's freaking me out by the freakin' out she @ Episode 23)
= Villeta (She'll remember the past, and also Zero's identity, so she will really have to die for the Order's sake)
= Diethard (Besides the fact that he has the word 'Die' in his name, he's too fanatical. I'm thinking he'll give his life to save Zero. Definitely a Zero fanboy.)
= Lots and lots of Japanese and Britannian ('Coz Nina will nuke them all!)
For the safe people, or those who are sure to cross over to the second season, I'm sure Lelouch will make it, so will Suzaku. He needs a rival, and Suzaku has long been established to fill that role. C.C. and V.V. 'coz the mysteries cannot be answered by the next two episodes. Schneizel has to live, as there has to be a Britannian royal left living. And Arthur. Definitely. Lol.
So who are your guesses?
(Oh, I apologize in advance for those who are offended by some of my comments. They are products of a caffeine deprived mind.)
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And... from what I heard, they already decided that Schneizel will be made as Lulu main rival in season 2. Dunno what happend with Suzaku, but he'll live. (thanks to Lulu "LIVE!" command, I guess)..
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I don't think they'll kill off too many characters in ep 24+25 though, maybe just RobOrange and Nina. Cornelia will have to live on for revenge, much like Suzaku. There'd be an imbalance between the Britannian and the Black Knights higher ups if they killed her off now, too.
Shirley and everyone else from the student council is pretty much safe imo, including Karen.
Diethard will have to live on to the 2nd season as well because his mission isn't over yet.
I dunno about Villetta though, maybe RobOrange will safe her from the mob and they'll die together after remembering their past?
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= Actually, I think Shirley will be important. The fact that she know who Zero is and still active in the series counts for something.
= ....I can HOPE.
= Villette is a strange one. I think either she regains her memory and all will go to hell or something about Ougi will make her choose her memory.
= Meh. He's a fanboy, but not that fanatical. He's more concerned about seeing the new world being shaped rather than Zero himself.
= Of course.
As for the other characters, I'm just wondering what happens to Ashford Academy after Lelouch creates his "United States of Nippon".
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And yeah, I want Nina to die because she bothers, irritates, and now scares me. It will probably be the subject of an episode in itself, at least the part of her trying to take revenge.
I definitely think Viletta will die or come close to dying, and Cornelia might. The thing is, they keep killing off the antagonists and dammit, you need a steady one of those, besides the emperor, unless he's ready to get off his over-hairdoed butt and play a more active role.
Also, and this is just a random sort of intuitive guess, I think Millay might die. Mostly because at this point she hasn't been involved on either side, really, is of a cheery disposition, and she *is* married off to Lloyd. Think of the opportunity it would give for Rivalz to react. Also because she would be another death which would drive Lelouch further into his madness, which seems to me, the more I think about it, what this series is about; someone with good intentions (mostly) going mad to the point of denying his humanity and morphing into the role he's playing a little more each time he plays it.
I also suspect that Lelouch will die at the end of the series at Suzaku's hand, or that the emperor will have Suzaku killed in front of Lelouch and he'll go batshit insane (more than recently) and fulfill some kind of weird prophecy we haven't yet been told about. Cryptic anime needs a prophecy with all those weird geassy flashbacks.
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Villetta and Cornelia... NUUUUUUUUU!!! I really like them. And I think that they could majorly plot move if they *didn't* die. Well, Villetta at least. Cornelia could help move plot by dying too. D:
And now that you mention it. Having Milly die does seem like an interesting and viable idea. It would be really *can't think of a word* if Nina somehow caused Milly's death.
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I'm hoping Villette will survive to see that "Orange-kun" is actually still alive and they'll meet up with Ogi in tow. Oh man, the drama!
I know Suzaku and Lelouch will be alive to the end, because they gotta have their showdown. It just wouldn't be right if they didn't~ But, then again, this is Code Geass and rules have been broken before ;3.
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That's what I thought too! I always expect happy endings, but Code Geass defies the unwritten laws of anime.
I think Shirley is going to die. I am sad, i liked her.
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Don't write her off yet! ^-^b *<- optimistic mood today!*
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I don't think the others.Nina because she's an insane nerd who just HAS to live because she creates mecha,Viletta because she would make major progressions to the plot,and Diethard because...he's Diethard.
Oh hurrah for Arthur living!
WHAT?V.V. gives Suzaku a Geass?Oh noes.And it brings DEAD BACK TO LIFE?Double oh noes.The last thing Suzaku needs is a Geass,especially one that brings dead back to life!
Let's hope he has either limited uses or the Geass turns them into brain-sucking zombies.
I knew there was something suspicious about young pretty girly-looking boys who come from another planet!
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Shirley might die. She doesn't have a reason to be killed at the moment unless she tells someone Zero's identity.
I keep thinking Viletta is going to get raped. Then die later on.
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I actually think Shirley will be important. She's being set up to learn all of Lulu's major secrets, after all. My guess is that she'll end up affiliated with a third group.
Diethard doesn't seem likely to give his life for anything. He can't record it if he's dead, can he?
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Orenji kun better make it after all he's been through! Lloyd also better make it too because ... well, he's Lloyd and he's awesome. ^-^ And Schneizel. Because though I wanted him a lot nastier, but he's still awesome.
I am not sure about Nina...I think she might be around for a bit longer with her custom mech and her all new super beserker fury. I hope she is anyway, because it amuses the hell out me that people hate her more than the murderous backstabbing Lelouch! XDDD
Someone should kill off Nunally. Just because she's been around for 23 episodes and she contributes as little now as she was when the story started.
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Orange will definitely be sticking around for a while now that he got a massive upgrade.
Of course Lloyd will be around.And Schneizel.
And if Nunally died Lelouch himself would have no reason to live.
Grgh,Nina really does need to die!
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Nunally is the most boring one dimensional character in the entire series. Unless she does something, get rid of her. ^-^
No, Nina does not need to die. :) Nina hasn't done anything as a character which deserves death as a reply. Unlike Nunally...oh no wait! She hasn't done anything which deserves death as a reply either. In fact...she hasn't done anything at all! XD
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OK,no,maybe Nina hasn't!Maybe she's just done nerdish,out of the way things that can also be disturbing.
Anyone else think her scream face in ep 23 was equivalent to Higurashi art standards?Yes that is ironic considering my icon.
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I think the actual chances of Sunrise using the Nightmare of Nunally(I think that's the title..is it?)mechs with her new body and all that stuff are 1 to 10.Unless her power is telepathic communication.
Correct me if I'm wrong,but on a spoiler thread I think it said Suzaku gets a Geass...frankly the last thing he needs in my opinion.That's why I like Arthur.Not only is he a cat,but he fights the power!XDD
So if V.V. is joining the character crew,does that mean that he too will love Pizza Hut?If he did,that would be hilarious.
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The thing about Shirely will probably show that the 'Geass' can be defeated. Like, how Lelouch was saying that Euphie was trying to go against it and he thought it might be that he was getting weaker with the Geass but then decided it was just because she couldn't do something so awful, but then he said... maybe that is all. Plus, towards the end Euphie already sort of showed that it could when she resisted the Geass at the end.
But, Lelouch doesn't know that. xD
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As for Nanully, she contributes quiet a bit to plot because everything lelouch does is for her. Also she can be regarded as a pure princess, and she is actually the one that keeps Lelouch's sanity in check.
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Hmm. That's *Lelouch's* personality, though. None of it is Nunally. She really has done nothing interesting in 23 episodes. Even Toudou, who's done next to nothing, has done more. She's so generic it's painful and she's the worst written character in the series for that reason.
(If her only contribution is keeping Lelouch's sanity in check, she's doing a pretty bad job of it! lol. Cos he crazy!)
Still, let's have her find out her brother murdered another brother and her sister and started a war and see what happens. Things could get interesting then. I guess importantly she hasn't been exposed to conflict as a character, so she's so static in the story emotionally.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that,but I don't really have that place in my heart for Nunally.If I were to write a fanfic of Code Geass,then she wouldn't be in it.She is sweet and kind,but she's kinda like Aryll from Wind Waker.Sweet,kind,center of attention of brother,gets in the way,and main reason why they started what they started.Now that I really think about it,she's like a person who stole Aryll's personality.And just like Aryll,she completely fails at her job of keeping her brother in sync with reality.Video game geeks like me,think about it.
Link took the cold-hearted side and ACTUAlLY wanted to kill the Helmaroc King because he kidnapped his sister.It didn't ACTUALLY kill her.
Lelouch became a rebel leader because he wants to build a safe world for the two of them,and will destroy anyone that gets in his way.
And why am I here referring Geass,a mecha anime show,to a medieval-world-based video game?I scare myself a lot.oo
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- Cornelia. Was the antagonist for a decent chunk of the first season; I see that transfering to Schneizel.
- Darlton (;o;) and Guilford.
- Jeremiah. He's got about the same plot function as Terminarcher at this point, imho.
- Nina, to put Milly into action.
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But Cornelia has her days numbered, definitely. Or she'll make a "Avenge Euphie" club or something.
And Diethard doesn't really have much to do with "die"...I think of his name as more like "diet hard." Hehe.
And Nina! Nina! Nina! She will SO die a violent death. I can feel it.
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I have to disagree on some points with you, though:
++ Cornelia
I doubt she's gonna die anytime soon. I mean, hey, without her, who'd lead the front lines? (Though when I look at it from a writer's perspective--which I usually do, since I'm a writer myself--it could be a good pawn to get rid of her so that Lelouch's father, Britannia's leader
forgot namecan come out...) But still, I stand by the notion that she'll not die easily and so soon. The fact that she loves her sister very much reasons out with this. Cornelia, after all, is not Euphemia; she's not WEAK. She's strong-willed; she's a soldier, a commander above general class, at that. She knows suicide won't solve anything; if anything, she'll strive to live until she extracts revenge. Darou? Clichè, but realistic enough.++ Shirley
You seem to have forgotten that she has suspicions on Lelouch, and she was the first one to figure out that Lelouch was Zero. She's playing a vital part--or will be--but she's under the surface right now. She's also one of the Geass' most influential victims; she's one of the very few who needs NEVER to recover. Euphemia is one, Suzaku another, and then her: she knows things. Though Zero would definitely be better with her dead, she probably won't die, since she's a vital point in the story, and the writers would want to manipulate her into remembering and then putting Lelouch in a pinch. *shrugs* All the more interesting that way. Writers have this tendency to torture their characters, see. Trust me, I know it from personal experience.
++ Diethard
No, I actually think he'll be the one who lives through all of this. He's someone we'd call a shape-shifter, after all; he molds his loyalties easily through his current standing interest. He's only loyal to Zero because of the "interesting everything" Zero emanates. He's even often a thorn in the Order members' side, deshou? He always poisons people into his bidding to make unnecessary trouble (i.e. that case with Karen, and another when he suggested the assassination of Suzaku which would in result shatter their initial rule: not bullying the weak). He can swing from side to side easily, and he's on safe ground--he holds valuable data that are potential blackmail materials. And oftentimes, when writers of these animes mention that phrase "recording history", this "recorder" often lives to the end. It's a clichè, dear. (Though I won't be surprised if they break another clichè; they've already done so once with Euphemia's death...)