Warning: nerdiness ahead

[loqi.livejournal.com]

Hello all! This is my first post to this community, even though I've been lurking for several weeks.

Unfortunately, I bear no gifts. Instead I have a transcription of what I thought is interesting in ep.7 on Suzaku's textbook.

The dots represent missing text and brackets represent my own words.

"... of Henry IX, son of the great [Elizabeth I?]... flourished as never before.
While other European countries stagnated assailed by waves of people's revolutions and parliamentarization, England held fast to absolute monarchy, and saw continued development through the reigns of King Henry X and Edward VI thanks to the wealth produced by the New World." 

This tells us that Britannia came from an England that never gave way to constitutional monarchy. From the sounds of it in ep.3 and here, Queen Elizabeth I did marry and had a son named Henry IX, who doesn't actually exist in our world. So there would've been no Act of Union between Scotland and England and the English Civil War would not have happened. The kings after him are pretty powerful rulers too and that could be why the American revolution didn't happen or was won by the British.

Sorry for the extreme nerdiness there, but I've always liked British royal family history, even fictional ones. ^^;; I hope it's not too spam-ish.

By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?

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[kimoi.livejournal.com]

By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?

Seconded! (Amused, at the very least.)

[klunatic.livejournal.com]

=[]=!!!! Awesome!!

[brennadouglasmw.livejournal.com]

You win for actually taking the time to do that. Do I get points for thinking about doing it?

That is some pretty awesome info. ^_^

By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?

I am too. I thought "WOAH! It's actually in English!" after I read what I could during the five seconds it was on the screen. :3

[konekodarkness.livejournal.com]

I'm British so let's clear something up.

Prince Harry's real name is Henry, he always hated it so everyone calls him Harry, therefore if something happens to William, he will take over and Edward, Charles' brother would be second in line to the throne.

So what is written is very possible if the world did go into chaos.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Haha, that was awesome. Theory confirmed! Take that, people who says Britannia = America when it's obvious that it's British! (And yes, I was like "WHOA. ENGLISH!" as well. It's a great step in preserving realistic setting detail, although language barriers is something Geass paraphased a lot in order to tell its story. Though not as bad as Black Lagoon)

I've always thought that was how Britain split itself from the EEU. It's also interesting, though, that Schneizel and Clovis are Germanic names (Clovis's Frank), Euphemia and Cornelia are Latin/Greek and while I can't vouch for Nanaly, Lelouch and Marianne are so French. So instead of being completely Britannia in origins, did the Emperor marry nobles/princesses from the EEU countries to preserve the balance of power? I have this image of Lelouch telling everyone he's French on his mother's side and Millay dressing him up as a French maid, Haruhi-Mikuru style

[queen-marshed.livejournal.com]

Ooooo..... so Code Geass is mre like AU to our world...

And there I was wondering how the FUCK did the US turn into a monarchy... now it makes sense....

(No Oliver Cromwell then? XD)

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

i knew it was linked to britain some way or another!! britannia is the old name given to britain by the romans after all :D

[chiapetzukamori.livejournal.com]

wow, that's fascinating! Kinda puts a whole new light on the situation....I had just assumed it was our (future-ish) world and Britain was more or less under a new rulership that decided empires were fun. This makes the whole show a whole ton more interesting!!! More of a "what-if" than a west-meets-east-DOOM situation ^_^ Thanks!

[mossygirl.livejournal.com]

This confirms what I thought about it being AU instead of futuristic ^_^ Thanks for taking the time to transcribe this out; it nicely fleshes out some of the background information ^___^ *sends internet cookies*

[loqi.livejournal.com]

Glad you thought it's useful!

[loqi.livejournal.com]

Oh, thanks for telling me that. Always wondered about where "Harry" came from.

So what is written is very possible if the world did go into chaos.

It's possible. I was hesitating about the Elizabeth I vs II (Shinsen translates it II, gg had I) but from what my very rusty Japanese can hear, there was no number. And since it was talking about New World and everything, I assumed it was Elizabeth I.

[von-questenberg.livejournal.com]

Fascinating. I love English history too. :D And yes I'm very glad they have someone who knows English writing this stuff.

[yume-mi.livejournal.com]

wow! cool! ^^

[loqi.livejournal.com]

(No Oliver Cromwell then? XD)

Fortunately, or is it unfortunately? XD I can totally see him being rebellious though... or maybe he left for America like he intended to.

[loqi.livejournal.com]

It definitely answers some questions.

Yay for cookies! *munches*

[loqi.livejournal.com]

No problem!

I assumed it was a future world too until ep. 3 came along and read Henry IX in the sub, which got me kind of suspicious. But this passage definitely explains things.

I like how it is AU too. ^_^

[loqi.livejournal.com]

Theory confirmed!

Yes! Totally confirmed. XD

As for the language thing, it always amuses me when the underlings say "Yes, your Highness!" or "Yes, my lord!". It's like the little phrases of Japanese you read in fanfics.

You're right about the name thing. The half-brothers and sisters seem to be separated by their names' nationality (Schneizel is probably Clovis's brother, I mean, for a long time I thought Schneizel from the opening IS Clovis). Though I wonder if there are still nobles/princesses from the EEU (or is it EU?) countries that are still in power. Is it much like modern Europe or is it a step further and every single country is governed by domacracy? Are they even separate countries anymore?

If Ureshi-Shinsen's subbing is correct in that Marianne's maiden name is Ashford (gg's sub doesn't agree), then wouldn't Millay be French too? Student Council Maid Cafe!

[okami-rei.livejournal.com]

I was interested about seeing what Suzaku was reading too. _{*Has even done a little research on Lancelot after the second episode*}

And indeed! I'm grateful for them to have someone who knows English these as well.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

The director said he wanted the American continent (understandable, you'd have trouble attacking Japan from Europe), but that didn't have to mean America. It's a little delicate, but STILL.

I know. XD And it's a little confusing what language they're using in there. XD

I'm not sure...we have no idea how the democratic revolutions went in the EEU/EU. Perhaps, say, like France...they say Marianne's family wasn't nobility at first. Perhaps they overthrew the royal system but created a new class of burgoisie? Half-noble, half-merchant-ish, but powerful nonetheless? I'd say most EU could be a somewhat like how it is today, though. It's too diversified to ever come together like the United States, but every/most country are democratic monarchies? Like England/Sweden/et cetera today?

[superpi3.livejournal.com]

By the way am I the only one who is grateful that they have someone who knows English to write these things?

just curious, loqi, what country are you from? me = american so

im very grateful too ^_^

[loqi.livejournal.com]

Eh? I live in Canada, though I don't really see how that's related to where I'm from. Though I suppose if you can't read English, then it doesn't really matter whether the passage is poorly written or not.

[loqi.livejournal.com]

If American independence never occured, then modern democracy would have to be born in France wouldn't it?... That is, if French history did not alter too much due to changes of the English ones. I can sort of see France as pretty much as it is today, and Marianne came from a wealthy family or family of high political standing (enough that the emperor would want to marry her out of political reasons). She may even be related to nobility of other European countries. Her noble status can come after her marriage to the emperor.

It just occured to me that in one of C.C.'s pictures we see something like WWI. So maybe the history of the rest of Europe didn't change that much... Though to answer our question, we probably need to know if WWII went pretty much the way ours did.

It's too diversified to ever come together

I agree, there're just too many countries.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Yep. France seems like the most likely place for it. I agree with you here, and also : The English history changes probably changes France, too, but probably in making it stronger as an 'adversary' to Britain, I think. As in, while England gobbles up territories like no tomorrow and everyone else ends up losing territory, the French could probably figure it's better to wise up and join in a coalition against imperialism, hence the EEU. If they don't cooperate and cut their colonial losses to protect themselves, Britain could probably attack them.

Re : WWII. I'm trying to figure out how that history went myself. I've thought WWI probably occurred, since the map showed Burma (my neighbouring country) as non-Britannian, and they freed themselves from colonial rule due to political treatypulling post-WWI. WWII, though...considering the Japanese still seemed to have a military and still carried katanas in the army, I wondered if it ever happened. Or if it did...it might be confined to the European theater. They sure had time to come up with Godzilla, though! Even if we must mourn the passing of whoever the Google brothers' ancestors were, as Biglobe seemed to have became the best search engine...

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Though heh, this just occurred to me. If the Japanese exhibited prior signs of siding with WWII Axis (if there is indeed a WWII) it'd be a perfect reason for Nina's fear of Elevens. She's Jewish, if her last name is any judge.

[superpi3.livejournal.com]

o no i guess i misunderstood your statement...i thought you meant that you were glad there was someone to write these things in english because you didn't know japanese....and hooray! im not the only person who doesn't know japanese!! unless you do, and if that's the case, i shall say "darn it!" and mumble to myself...lol ^_^
and holy crayola crayons! nice tsubasa icon!!!