Lelouch's Path into Darkness

[crossxx.livejournal.com]

:( Hai guyz, read what I have to say nao!

I'd always feared Sunrise would take a copout and direct Code Geass R2 through the path of Death Note, where the hero becomes pointedly the anti-hero and his death is happily justified to the viewer due to the hero's eventual ignoble intentions. Lelouch started out with incredible intentions, wishing to create a world of peace and equality. Sure, he's been the cause of a lot of deaths, but they were somehow always for a reasonable cause. However, watching episode 14, I'm starting to fear that Lulu's batshitting is just the beginning of more senseless destruction. In 14, even his subordinates remarked on the parallel between Britannia/Japan and OoBK/Geass Cult with regards to the slaughter.

It worked for Death Note but for Code Geass, having a vilified Lulu die in the end will be utter crap. One of the reasons why I like Code Geass is because  Lulu keeps a sensible head on his shoulders. Unfortunately, I just don't see the CG world just stepping around Lulu's massacre with all the dissent from the order and given the flow of the plot, I doubt this will be an isolated "sorry haha!" incident.

Comments

[nekroskoma.livejournal.com]

and some therapy lots of therapy

[crossxx.livejournal.com]

I'm comparing nothing so far. I'm just saying it'd be sad if Code Geass ended like Death Note. If I were lamenting about the fact the Code Geass might end like DBZ, I would still not be comparing the two series, hahaha. :)

[crossxx.livejournal.com]

Yep, I agree. I'm just using a pretty well established anime to portray the ending that I do NOT want.

It'd make me so happy if Lulu could have a happy ending :3 I totally hope they are screwing with me, lol.

[hylarn.livejournal.com]

It seems to me like Lulu's level of darkness depends on his mood. He was nearly heroic during the China arc, when things were going well for him. Slaughtering not-really-innocent researchers and sociopathic geass-using child assassins is just his way of grieving.

Aside from which, Turn 7 served to give Lelouch a more positive motivation than revenge, so unless the writers want to make it pointless, said motivation probably be brought up in a few Turns. Plus, the Geass Cult really did need to get wiped out.

If there's anyone you should be worried about sliding into villainy, it's Suzaku.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

I decline said statement, not only due to the ambiguous meaning of "fucked up," but also that Lelouch was in the rationale and emotional advantage against Clovis.

Clovis recklessly made the decision that killed off a defenseless ghetto and Lelouch's best friend. Then that decision SHOULD have killed Lelouch, in any aspects given to a normal person, he was to die right then and there.
Geass allowed Lelouch to live, avenge the sacrifice of Suzaku, and rise as a true leader, all as a stepping stone towards destroying Britannia.

Clovis has nothing to protect himself from Lelouch except for their childhood, which is one of the more sad and ironic truths as Lelouch is unable to realize who is his ally with those sided with Britannia.

However, Lelouch declared that he abandoned Britannia and swore to destroy it and seeing that Clovis is sided with Britannia, his father and possibly the conspirators that murdered his mother, he is liable because accordingly to his plans, any Governor General fits the bill and Clovis happened to be in those boots.

Also with Clovis' death, the Britannian Administration over Area 11 is at a halt which allowed enough time for the creation of Zero and a reorganization of the Resistance, which also should have been killed wasn't said for Lelouch, before the next Governor General assumed duty.

If Lelouch's "fucked up-ness" didn't start here, then all that's being targeted in the older brother's natural instinct to protect and assumed responsibility or to the duties that he fulfills as a true leader.

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Although the parallels between the slaughter of the Geass Cult and ghetto seem similar to the untrained eye, only Lelouch and his close subordinates realize the dangers that the Geass Cult poses which the ghettos clearly did not define. The Geass Cult is the research of weaponry and seeing how V.V. is the master, must be sided with the Emporer and Britannia which V.V. pointed out by nearly sending the transport that would have aided Britannia. I agree with the comment down there that it's hard to show empathy for trained weapons.

Also asking for a clear distinction of Charles is hard to draw due to how it has only been stated and not explained. Yet I believe what Charles seeks to destroy is countries, who are invisible deities that cause humans to fight amongst themselves, and believes that by world domination, those gods except for one are destroyed. If so, would that mean the end to conflicts and is this not similar to a peaceful world that Lelouch has always envisioned?

[silvatine.livejournal.com]

After Suzaku's "kidnapping" of Governor General Nunnally, Lelouch lost his focus and it seemed as if his intentions of releasing Japan from Britannia's hold were actually true. But after Shirley's untimely death, all that "Not only for Nunnally, but Japan too!" is gone down the drain.

[glenngunnerzero.livejournal.com]

It can't end like Death Note.



Lelouch doesn't have the stamina to swim like Light.

[silvatine.livejournal.com]

"The world will be better off without people like Rolo."

People like Lelouch too, as he basically is one of those children, save for the training-upbringing. What he doesn't realize is that although Rolo physically killed Shirley, it was his actions that lead to Shirley's death and the chaos the world was thrown into. Yes, those geass-weapon children would perhaps lead the world to destruction, but Lelouch will achieve it first.

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

This is all very true. Perhaps even by this point Lelouch has realized it, but doesn't want to accept it. Then again maybe he has and he wants to keep others from following his path. I could see it very close with his character that he realized it but refuses to believe it.

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

We all know that Lelouch would beat Light. He'd just put a bullet in his head while Light tries to write his name in the DN ;D

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

I lol'd.

[zalem.livejournal.com]

But the thing is, no one's hands are clean in this series. There is no clear cut good guy. If Lelouch has to die to "pay" for his sins then so does the majority of the cast. Suzaku fell further down the dark path this episode as well and I'm guessing he's not done either. So either there will be redemption or there will be a massive bloodbath at the end of this series. Hell, there could be both.

[gacktsuki.livejournal.com]

He realized it and he accepted it. What he's doing is "evil to destroy even greater evil". What I see lacking about him is that he all thinks about destruction without creation. The question is: even if this world is destroyed, what would he do to create the perfect world he's been dreaming of?

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

An even better question is that by this point is anyone going to stand beside him?

[fujiappletan.livejournal.com]

lol lol and then Light would probably get it wrong by writing "Lamperouge" instead of "vi Britannia" at the end of Lelouch. >>

[stuffedpanda.livejournal.com]

You don't feel sorry for the fact that they were forced into it? That they didn't get a choice?

[crossxx.livejournal.com]

LURL

[likeviolins.livejournal.com]

To be fair, being under Lelouche's tuteledge isn't exactly the most enriching environment for such things.

[nelotizapu.livejournal.com]

You know, besides a revenge killing, I almost see the killing of the geass!children as a... mercy killing. Geass isolates people, as CC said. The killing of Shirley reminds him of this. Geass also killed Euphemia. If Euphemia was his first love, then Shirley could well be his second love, and they both died.

Good or evil, what would have happened to those children? If they're anything like Rolo, they're already messed up a bit in the head, and even if they could be completely reformed... they could go crazy like Mao, or accidently make someone go insane like Lulu. Maybe Lulu thinks he's doign the kids a favour too, by killing them. Same reason that he kills the rest of the lab: no moar geass plz.

If Lelouch dies like Raito, it better be the manga ending. I jsut saw the anime ending last week, and omg it was so sappy. Blah. I actually liked the manga ending, it... suited him. XD ...anyways, I see Suzaku killing Lelouch. I mean, Suzaku already blames Lulu for Euphie, an accident, and blames Lulu for Shirley, which he is totally didn't do, and then all the things Lulu DID do... XD

Or Charles kills Lelouch next week THE END.

[typo1138.livejournal.com]

The only thing that bothers me is that while Lelouch does have that weakness, that he's weak physically, is that it hasn't much directly affected his endeavors. I mean, it probably could have helped in some situations, but as far as I can tell it hasn't directly negatively anything (unless I'm forgetting something which is entirely possible >.>;;)

I agree about his motives though. Although they changed, they still stayed relatively pure - and while Lelouch is acting stupidly, it really feels like just a lashing out due to anger and frustration, even though he seems collected.

[glenngunnerzero.livejournal.com]

Being captured by Suzaku at the end of R1.

[crossxx.livejournal.com]

O.O

[breepants.livejournal.com]

In a way though, they are innately destructive. Perhaps they are there at that facility because they cannot control their geass? Controlling geass seems to be an issue in CG.

And just because they didn't have a choice to become this weapon, doesn't mean that aren't destructive.

[spurnedambition.livejournal.com]

TRUFAX.

Lelouch can't go for the gold in the Beijing Olympics like Laight-o can.

[chiapetzukamori.livejournal.com]

just remember that he is in shock and grief. No one acts reasonably in those states. He's on a revenge rampage - blaming geass (and Rolo) for Shirley's demise.
If and when he snaps out of it - he *may* go back to those "Not only for Nunnally, but Japan too!" intentions.