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I'd always feared Sunrise would take a copout and direct Code Geass R2 through the path of Death Note, where the hero becomes pointedly the anti-hero and his death is happily justified to the viewer due to the hero's eventual ignoble intentions. Lelouch started out with incredible intentions, wishing to create a world of peace and equality. Sure, he's been the cause of a lot of deaths, but they were somehow always for a reasonable cause. However, watching episode 14, I'm starting to fear that Lulu's batshitting is just the beginning of more senseless destruction. In 14, even his subordinates remarked on the parallel between Britannia/Japan and OoBK/Geass Cult with regards to the slaughter.

It worked for Death Note but for Code Geass, having a vilified Lulu die in the end will be utter crap. One of the reasons why I like Code Geass is because  Lulu keeps a sensible head on his shoulders. Unfortunately, I just don't see the CG world just stepping around Lulu's massacre with all the dissent from the order and given the flow of the plot, I doubt this will be an isolated "sorry haha!" incident.
Date/Time: 2008-07-13 22:11 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] trinities.livejournal.com
I hate to point it out, but Lelouch has been fucked up since the very beginning. He walked in and killed his own brother in cold blood in the first episode, later on he cracks after finding out that Suzaku pilots the Lancelot—among other things. Yes, he massacred people, but it's definitely not the first time he has done it. I think the constant parallel between Lelouch and Charles, however, has been ... well, constant.
Date/Time: 2008-07-13 22:26 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] clones.livejournal.com
I agree. Lelouch's goals have always been selfish. He doesn't genuinely care about Japan, he just sees joining the rebels as the easiest way to bring down the empire. He may be getting worse as the series goes on, but Lelouch was ultimately always a messed-up character.

and that's why I love him
Date/Time: 2008-07-13 22:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] dist.livejournal.com
Agreed. I've never seen Lelouch as a remotely purely-intentioned character, and not an exceptionally sensible one either despite his talent for strategy. I think the dangerous downward path he's been going on has been pretty much laid out since the beginning and has always been forseeable.
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 02:46 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fox-holland.livejournal.com
I decline said statement, not only due to the ambiguous meaning of "fucked up," but also that Lelouch was in the rationale and emotional advantage against Clovis.

Clovis recklessly made the decision that killed off a defenseless ghetto and Lelouch's best friend. Then that decision SHOULD have killed Lelouch, in any aspects given to a normal person, he was to die right then and there.
Geass allowed Lelouch to live, avenge the sacrifice of Suzaku, and rise as a true leader, all as a stepping stone towards destroying Britannia.

Clovis has nothing to protect himself from Lelouch except for their childhood, which is one of the more sad and ironic truths as Lelouch is unable to realize who is his ally with those sided with Britannia.

However, Lelouch declared that he abandoned Britannia and swore to destroy it and seeing that Clovis is sided with Britannia, his father and possibly the conspirators that murdered his mother, he is liable because accordingly to his plans, any Governor General fits the bill and Clovis happened to be in those boots.

Also with Clovis' death, the Britannian Administration over Area 11 is at a halt which allowed enough time for the creation of Zero and a reorganization of the Resistance, which also should have been killed wasn't said for Lelouch, before the next Governor General assumed duty.

If Lelouch's "fucked up-ness" didn't start here, then all that's being targeted in the older brother's natural instinct to protect and assumed responsibility or to the duties that he fulfills as a true leader.

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Although the parallels between the slaughter of the Geass Cult and ghetto seem similar to the untrained eye, only Lelouch and his close subordinates realize the dangers that the Geass Cult poses which the ghettos clearly did not define. The Geass Cult is the research of weaponry and seeing how V.V. is the master, must be sided with the Emporer and Britannia which V.V. pointed out by nearly sending the transport that would have aided Britannia. I agree with the comment down there that it's hard to show empathy for trained weapons.

Also asking for a clear distinction of Charles is hard to draw due to how it has only been stated and not explained. Yet I believe what Charles seeks to destroy is countries, who are invisible deities that cause humans to fight amongst themselves, and believes that by world domination, those gods except for one are destroyed. If so, would that mean the end to conflicts and is this not similar to a peaceful world that Lelouch has always envisioned?
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 16:09 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] mz-shiro-030.livejournal.com
hey i agree with what you wrote because unlike light yagami, lulu was makin a better world for his younger sister and was willing to sacrifice himself for the people that he cares for. but light on the other hand would sacrifice his whole family if he has 2 just to make a better world for him. light wants to rule the new world but lulu wants to make a better world for his sister nunnally. and i believe charles IS trying to destroy the countries. i think that deep down inside he is really upset about wat happened to lulu's mother though he doesn't show it because he's a king and king's rarely show emotions when somthing happens to someone. i think he's destroying the countries for lulu's mother but doesnt know that he's doing it for her. and i also think that killing those children that were with v.v. deserved to die because this kind of stuff might happened again the future is unpredictible.
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 21:39 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fox-holland.livejournal.com
Light is a jerk >8V

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