A different approach

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

Another Turn 14 discussion...

Ok, the reasoning that the Geass Cult is in fault (whether or not the people are used against their will) is not only shared by Lelouch, but also by Cornelia. Of course, Cornelia doesn't know as much as Lelouch (heck, who told her Euphemia had been geassed??) but both of them are blaming "Geass" for the deaths. And the people in the order, they also died because of Geass. I'm assuming both their reasoning (or at least Cornelia's) is this: Don't hate the player, hate the game (well, Lulu also hates the player, but maybe Cornelia can't hate him that much...who knows)

The Empire was experimenting with these people, so who can say whether they were happy or were not suffering already. But the fact is, these people would have died anyway, either used by the empire for experiment or for war. It seems to me that Charles has forgiven V.V. for things he has done in the past, so it's plausible Cornelia has forgiven Lelouch already. On this tangent, Rolo's untimely save by Cornelia just reinforces my theory that he is way closer to Lelouch and the Imperial family than it seems...Nunnally's Twin FTW!!

Fangirl points for Orenji, he saved Cornelia <3 i hope she joins the Rebellion :P
And Rolo can get into cardiac arrest every time he uses geass? Well, some sort of impediment he had to have. Isn't that just a very convenient weakness, though, a prince with a weak heart is not useful for the empire...XD

Sorry if there too much discussions going on the comm, but as a more specific thread, I thought it appropriate XD

Comments

[master.livejournal.com]

I was confused about the whole cardiac arrest thing for Rolo. Did I miss something, or was that seriously an out of the blue thing?

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

that was just V.V. trying to hurt Rolo, by calling him a failure, and then he just explained why Rolo was a failure.

[master.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know, but I was talking about the idea behind it, not why V.V. mentioned it~ Guess I was the only one thrown off by that, since I'm a giant Rolo fag.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

It why Rolo froze up before V.V. in the Siegmund and got his Knightmare's legs broken.

[master.livejournal.com]

I know. I was just surprised by that little bit of information about Rolo, and I wasn't sure if I missed a previous mentioning of it or it was random information for the audience to pick up along the way.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

There was no previous mention of it.

Well considering how Rolo was hacks when before it was just Lulu versus him, all of a sudden his usefulness toward Lelouch and protection is depleting dramatically, especially if Lelouch heard that conversation between them.

[master.livejournal.com]

K, that was all I was wondering about.

& that's true. I never really thought of it like that before.

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

Actually, waaaay back in Turn 5, when they're peeling potatoes, Rolo tells Lelouch that there's a weakness to his geass. They weren't interrupted or anything, but we do get a scene change immediately afterwards. However, I assume that Lelouch knows.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

As lialiakicks said, I thought Rolo just told him about the time limit, since that was demonstrated thereafter by stopping Suzaku. I mean why would he freeze up against V.V. if he already knew that his heart could stop when he activated his geass?

I'm assuming that Lelouch was listening into that conversation between V.V. and Rolo and does know.

[rkylo.livejournal.com]

Oh God well, I totally love Orenji, he's my hero xD
And dear God I was dying I really thought Rolo would say bye bye in this turn

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

I thought so too, but it seems he'll live until the last stages of the season...because there's no way in hell that kid is going to live past this season/ending.

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

I agree whole heartedly. It was bad move for Rollo, telling Lelouch he killed Shirley.

*shakes head* I didn't think he would try to lie like that. Bad, bad move Rollo dear. I believe your end is approaching faster than Lelouch's.

Darn, and I really liked him too ;_;

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

I didn't think he would lie, either, but at least he would keep it for himself unless Lelouch asked. Next thing you know, he'll think Lelouch loves him more than Nunnally >__>

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

Thats what I thought too :/ I didn't expect him to be waiting in the shadows as Lelouch watched her die. Then hes just there? The boy really must be sheltered to not enough sense to understand the pain Lelouch felt over her death. It was so obvious, even if Lulu is a good actor.

And I believe he already does o_o I mean look at what he did to Shirley at just the mention of Nunnally's name.

[gem2niki.livejournal.com]

I was fearing for his life as well haha.... In this series, anyone can die....

[faye-naruse.livejournal.com]

Totally agree with you about Orenji and Cornelia <3 :3

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

Yes, Orenji just got even better this week. I thought I couldn't love him any more after his whole "Yes, Your Majesty" line, which by the way, makes me weak in the knees every time he says it <3. Then he goes and saves Cornelia.

Can you get any better Orenji? And forgive me for hating you before D:

As for Cornelia joining the rebellion, I wouldn't get your hopes up. I believe it was already revealed in an episode summary she goes against Lelouch or something. I can't remember exactly what it said, but who knows, we could get lucky and it turns out she forgives and joins him.

But I for one am skeptical. Shes doing all this to avenge and clear Euphie's name, and who killed Euphie? Yeah, definitely skeptical :/

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

As for Cornelia joining the rebellion, I wouldn't get your hopes up
Nah, that's my wishful thinking. She wouldn't join the rebellion, but she's not all there with the Emperor right now, with all the Geass things she found out.

Orenji can only get better, I have always loved him <3 well, he gave me very good laughs in S1 XD
And that line is amazingly hot...fangirl thoughts mixing up with that line, going higher that Diethard/Zero asfdfasfdfafXD

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

Wishful thinking is always nice though. I would be overly happy if she did join him, like the crazy Geass fangirl I am. But again severely skeptical XD;

I doubt she'd side with Britannia at this point either. I'm really curious as to what shes going to do.

And yes he can, I'm so glad hes not just a gag character anymore.

Yes, yes it is *_* Sunrise just loves to give us fangirl crack.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

She's unable to side with Britannia since they have officially declared Princess Euphemia sole responsible for the for the Eleven Massacre.

She really doesn't have much of a choice...?

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

True. But I still can't see really joining Lulu.

Since they're siblings, I can see her joining him out of necessity, then screwing him over later. Kind of like Lulu using Rollo, except if Cornelia tries it on him, I expect it to back fire.

I say this just cause Lelouch is pulling out all the stops now. So if Cornelia did join him he would watch her like a hawk.

And she probably doesn't have much of a choice, since I don't think she can just go back to Britannia after being gone so long. Ah well, I guess we'll see.

[fox-holland.livejournal.com]

I know. I feel the same way, too.

If Cornelia were to do anything, she'd probably side with Lelouch ONLY if it meant V.V. or Charles was involved. If that wasn't the case, escape and continue being rogue. Probably find Guilford and give him a cookei.

[saverellawish.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes indeed. Exactly. And I'm all for her going to find Guilford and giving him a cookie.

I'm guessing from the opening she does go back to him eventually. I just want to know whats up with her arm being the sling.

[neltis-screi.livejournal.com]

heck, who told her Euphemia had been geassed??

i thought i accidentally skipped the whole scene or sumthing and that I must rewatch R2 for being the only one wondering who told Cornelia about the geass. XD thanks for mentioning, now I know it really still is a mystery.

Orenji FTW~!! *squeaa*

[chunky-bunny.livejournal.com]

I can answer that (probably)

In Stage 25, she might have heard Suzaku muttered the word "Geass" after she told something to him. And probably decided to do some research on it.

Argh, I need to refresh my brain D:

[sevthebat.livejournal.com]

Oh gods yes your icon. GO/CG = WIN. ♥

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

hehe, Cornelia being my favorite female character in the series (C.C. close in second, and Kaguya in third because she's had so very little screen time) I noticed right away XD
The only explanation I can think off is that Suzaku told her after returning from the island with Zero captured.

[neltis-screi.livejournal.com]

thank you both. a level up for not reacting the same way Suzakass did. Cornelia FTW.

[maivenirs.livejournal.com]

I just can't imagine that Suzaku will do that to Kallen in order to find out the real identity of ZERO.(actually he knows Lelouch is Zero = =").

It seems that Lelouch has forgotten to save Kallen in the recent episode...(hurt).Some guys are guessing if Kallen will turn to Suzaku/Britainnia and betray Lelouch.....(ah..i don't want to see that..)And i don't want to witness Rolo's death..he is so royal to Lelouch..How can Lelouch be so cold-blooded and even try to kill him?

R2 is really a tragedy...

BTW,did anyone see that C-tsu changed her facial expression when she heard Lelouch's voice!? HAaa~ Is that indicate C-tsu is in love with Lelouch *?

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

I think Suzaku is pretty much set in getting revenge from Lelouch. He will hurt anyone if it means getting back at him. He doesn't need to hurt Nunnally, because he already knows that just the fact that she is away from him is a lot of punishment. He just hasn't admitted how much he is looking forward revenge because he doesn't "believe" in revenge.

As for Kallen, I'm really not that worried for her. There's not much Suzaku can do to her than Nunnally can't find out, so refrain will probably be as far as he can go. As for refrain itself, if it's only used once or twice, it probably won't cause an addiction. But it seems that the wing's upgrade for the guren will come from Britannia (they do have the KMF XD)

As for Rolo dying...I like him, but I have no attachments to him. He will probably die too, so I guess that helps XD
I think C.C. idolizes Lelouch because he can grant her wish - if she loves him because of that, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm rooting for C.C.xLelouch, though, or if that doesn't work, KaguyaxLelouch <3

[schizofragile.livejournal.com]

Crack theory: Lulu kills Rolo and then he finds out he's Nunnally's twin LOL because the hair and jdslf;ldskg the eyes (okay so we can't see Nunnally's eyes but it's VIOLET D: D: so?) and and and well. HAH yes that would be another TWEEEST.

Oh well. Almost everyone's being a douche at CG now.

[schizofragile.livejournal.com]

*I'm referring to the CG characters (those douche-s? D:)

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

to be even more painful: Rolo is dying when he finds out they are brothers. By Zero's hand, of course.
I want Rolo to go batshit!crazy on Nunnally before he dies, though XD

That's the good thing about Code Geass, they are all douchebags XD (and those who aren't die a violent/undeserved death)

[vicks111.livejournal.com]

oh, and it seems Nunnally's eyes are violet (http://lulu-rebellion.org/scans/anime_074.jpg). There are some other scans in there of chibi!Nunnally with her violet eyes XD