Refrain Flashback

[torahellion.livejournal.com]

Okay  we all know that Suzaku is planning to use refrain on Kallen to see if Lelouch is really Zero.

Well, in the middle of trying to claw my way into the internet to bitch slap Suzaku I got a thought what will Kallen see during her time on Refrain.

Will we see more of Kallen's past?

Will we see more of her time as a terrorist before Lelouch and the Black Knights?

I hope so, I don't know why but I really want to find out more about Kallen's brother Naoto.

Also, did any one else try to claw there way into the internet to defend everyone's favorite Bunny girl

Comments

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

I want to kick Suzy in the head for even suggesting that Lulu killed Shirley. I mean, the same afternoon he witnessed as Lelouch JUMPED OFF A BUILDING to save her and despite his lack of any physical strength, hold on to her. UAgshagshajhgsaj. And yes, the refrain really just rounds it off. I hate Suzaku. ;;

I really don't think Kallen will hallucinate anything from her time with the BK making the entire venture useless to Suzaku. But yes, I do really hope to find out more about her past, especially Naoto, etc.

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

...He also knows that Lelouch geassed Euphie into massacring a whole shitload of people and watched him personally shoot her and then drag her name through the mud. And since he has no explanation regarding the whole Euphie incident, it's not surprising that he would think that Lelouch would go to such extremes.

No, stuff still doesn't add up (especially with the saving Shirley from falling bit), but the point is that both these boys think, say, and do irrationally bastardy things when they're grieving and emotional (and otherwise at the height of irrationality).

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

I wonder though, if Suzaku knew how close Euphie and Lelouch actually were, or if he thinks Lelouch only saw her as another Britannian princess to be used and killed? Would he maybe think that something went through if he knew how close they were?

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

Wow, what an inappropriate LJ icon. Totally picked the wrong one. XD

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

I'm not quite sure I follow. In any case, if Suzaku knew how close Lelouch and Euphie were, I'm sure he would feel even more angry. Suzaku was already pissed that Lelouch would betray him like that, despite their friendship. It made it hurt more. If Lelouch betrayed a sister who was close to him and loved him, it would be an even deeper wound.

The main issue is that Suzaku doesn't know it was all an accident. He's confused about it all and questions why Lelouch would geass Euphie like that, but he's not going to run on the story that it was an accident by default. After all, Suzaku's more than a little butthurt that Lelouch would betray him by being Zero, and so he "knows" that Lelouch has it in himself to backstab those close to him. To him, "Lelouch is an evil motherfucker" is more likely than "oops lol".

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

Indeed. It's like Shirley had said, it's not that he can't forgive him, it's that he doesn't want to. Seeing Lelouch as evil happily vindicates his own actions. it's spurs his whole "change from within" philosophy.

It's sort of amazing Lelouch doesn't blame him having left her in his protection. Though having Rolo admit it sort of focuses things.

What gets me is the utter lack of forensics in Britannia. How they'd classify it a suicide is beyond me. "Yes, I'm a happy-go-lucky girl, and I'm going to shoot myself in quite possibly the slowest, most painful way to die from it, holding the gun at an unreasonably uncomfortable position, in the middle of a train under terrorist attack, all because ---- (I suppose he was going to say in a fit of hopeless, woe is me, unrequited love)."

What. The. Fuck...

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

I think that Suzaku has the capability to forgive Lelouch, but I don't think he has it right now. Until Lelouch gives an explanation for what happened with Euphie, he has little reason to refrain from blaming Lelouch for everything that happened in season 1. Yes, he doubts the circumstances surrounding Euphie's massacre, but he still lets blame/anger/what-have-you drive his actions.

It's not forensics but just awful detective work. D= And along those lines, I had a similar thought after watching 13--Rolo shot her in the fucking gut and left her to bleed to death. If you want to kill someone and make them suffer, a gut shot is what you'd take. And it's not like he doesn't know how to kill people efficiently, either. What a fucking little bitch. D:

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

Lol. On the one hand, I do feel pity for Rolo because all he wants to do is please his nii-san (and failing really hardcore at it). But my point wasn't that he simply offed Shirley. He killed her in one of the most painful ways possible. I'm torn between calling it an action of spite born from jealousy and calling it a cheap plot device by Sunrise to keep Shirley alive long enough to talk to Lelouch. >_>

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

I call it both.

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

By the way, did anyone else notice that the date is wrong on her coffin? It's looks like Rolo not only killed her, but even robbed her of an entire year...

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm not saying it's outside of his character. I agree, he needs some answers before he can do it, but it also helps that he doesn't seem to want Lelouch to not be the villain.

It is awful detective work, and why is the doctor spouting it anyway? Shouldn't he just be in charge of cause (which he did as mass organ failure)? I say lack of forensics as they should be easily able to find three sets of prints on that gun (hers, the cop she took it from, and, you know, the guy that killed her), and close range firing should leave a sign. It moot I guess. I'm just glad Suzaku wasn't dumb enough to buy it.

You're right about Rolo wanting her to suffer, though it also allows for her death scene, so I guess he had to be sadistic. It fuels my jealousy motive bit too.