Turn 18 Discussion & wtfness

[recodes.livejournal.com]

I'm still speechless. As usual, please do not click if you don't want to spoil yourselves.

EDITED: Added extra info and discussion points.

I'll just state a few points that we can discuss, because I'm still too speechless by the recent turn.

- Sayoko released Kallen, who joined the fight her upgraded Guren. Lloyd went "NOOOO!! My ---"
- Anya trapped Shinkirou, almost succeeded in pwning Lulu but she got another sync episode and fell.
- Rolo (;_;) wasn't really planning to save Nunnally... "I'll find Nunnally and kill her. Nii-san's only sibling is me."
- Luciano's dead, thanks to Kallen. Funny that Kallen used Luciano's famous words before finishing him off "What's the most important thing to you?"
- Nina initially wanted to use Lancelot. No way, woman. She kept urging Suzaku to "Fire! Fire it!", much to my annoyance.
- Charles' actual whereabout is still unknown, but he seems to be enjoying the show to the fullest
- Kinoshita died in front of Asahina, and Asahina had just told Toudou that Zero's not actually purely helping them because of the Japanese (he didn't say that, but that's what we can interpret).
- Guilford died saving Lulu ;_;, and Cornelia (who managed to escape) kind of felt his presence moments before his death. My pairing...
- Jeremiah rocks in Sigfried, but Lakshata still wondered why the heck was Jeremiah fighting on their side in the first place
- Lulu was intent on killing Suzaku off. I bet he totally forgot his Geass on him was still on.

- I've always known somehow that Suzaku would use Freya, but I didn't expect it would be under this situation. Kallen's upgraded Guren totally pwned Lancelot (which was why Lloyd and Cecil kept urging Suzaku to "Run away, Lord Kururugi!". Nina screamed at him to shoot Freya, saying that it would save his life. Suzaku refused. But before the impact that would surely kill him, the "Live!" Geass activated and Suzaku fired.

Everything was almost in slow motion. Too many things and too many people were enveloped by the pink light. And everything vanished just like that. I felt for Lulu when he screamed for Nunnally before the explosion.

If Sunrise is fucking our brains for real, chances are Nunnally, Sayoko and many others are still alive. It happened to fast for even Sayoko to retreat with Nunnally. Rolo wasn't with them, so he was saved.

When Lulu asked Rolo about Nunnally, the poor kid tried to make Lulu see some light. "But Nunnally is dead!" and Lulu (denial, maybe) harshly screamed "Shut up!". Rolo's death is practically confirmed judging by the preview. Lulu's going to take the phone and the locket and smash it to the ground.

Maybe Rolo would try to comfort him by saying that Lulu's still got him even if Nunnally's gone. And knowing Lulu, he's going to snap and tell Rolo everything about him using the boy for his cause.

The worse part is that Schneizel was smiling triumphantly when Suzaku fired Freya.

Additional:
So Suzaku was the one who fired Freya, but that was only due to the Geass. We know that Suzaku flat out refused to use it. Technically, this makes Lulu the one who's responsible for all the death count. It all comes back to him. If Nunnally REALLy died, then he should be blaming himself for her death too.

T__T

Or did Lulu totally, totally forgot about that? He should know why Suzaku fired when he was at the brink of death. If he wanted Suzaku to really die in battle, why didn't he tell Jeremiah to undo the "Live" Geass on Suzaku?

p.s/ I didn't realise the previous post by someone else since I was typing this at that time. This post runs on another wavelength though, because our emphasis on the events in the episode (plus the info) is different. Mods can delete this post if it's violating the rules, nonetheless.

Comments

[hzuki.livejournal.com]

You'd think...Lelouch would learn after Shirley not to trust Rolo with those king of things!!! ;_;
RAWR STUPID NUKEZAKU!!! The irony of him nuking Japan can't be lost...unless WW2 was different in CG universe

[recodes.livejournal.com]

Spinzaku, Drugzaku, Nukezaku... ;_;

Turn 19, come quickly T_T

[halfthewords.livejournal.com]

I think this will be a pivotal point for Schneizel in the series--he's been something of a background!villain up until now, but with the nuking of Tokyo, and Nunnally's death, Lelouch is going be targeting him. This could still get iiiinteresting~

[recodes.livejournal.com]

That, or lose the will to go on completely. Nunnally was practically his reason for living. Now that she's dead... I don't know what to say.

I guess it's time for Schneizel to get extra air time.

[unsugared.livejournal.com]

NUNNALLY... SAYOKO... GUILFORD... ;________;

Hate Schneizel for that damned smile of his, hate Nina for keep forcing Suzaku to use Freya (He used it!!! Are you happy now???? Now your job is done, Nina. Someone please kill her.), love Kallen for killing Luciano and love both Lloyd and Rakshata's reaction after seeing the Guren.

I dread what will happen in the next Turn. ;_______; Crazy Lulu to the fullest, I guess.

[recodes.livejournal.com]

The wtfness of it all astounds me. Nina should die ASAP. Everybody else seems to die before her, which is kind of unfair *~_~

[little-pierrot.livejournal.com]

I'm scared and in denial.

And maybe the mods can fuse the two topics? I don't know, some of the streams went insane during the show and people missed a few scenes. This kind of helps until the raws come out :\

[recodes.livejournal.com]

Some of the streams went insane? That's got to suck. I'm glad mine was fine ~_~

[chunky-bunny.livejournal.com]

For once, I am NOT Looking forward to the episode Because one of the characters I like died. ghasp my pairing ;~;

doesn't this also mean that the Rivalz, Millay, NANIMAIHANNI!Miya, and the others in tokyo died as well. NOT WANT ;~;

snd just when I am beginning to like Rollo, now he's going to die? NO PLEASE.

those Korean spoilers ARE true from the beginning ;~;

[failouch.livejournal.com]

Rivalz lives. Millay apparently dies, and I'm not sure about Miya. ;_;

[ee970.livejournal.com]

Am I the only one who thought that Lelouch seemed kinda guilty when Kallen showed up?


..............guilford orz

[recodes.livejournal.com]

I thought he looked totally surprised to see her there. But yeah, it was like he forgot about her, lol XD And here I thought he sent Sayoko there to help Kallen out as well.

[codename-windy.livejournal.com]

I called it! I totally called the nuke being used due to "LIVE" geass the moment they told us it has been put onto Lancelot! I have written proof of calling it!!!

... *cough*

It was very intense episode, especially for one that has so much mecha battles. Normally I'm not too big fan of the fighting episodes, but this one had so much happening that it left one almost out of breath. I'll definitely need to watch it again before being able to really form any coherent opinion of... anything.

[abe-abe.livejournal.com]

I hear ya. I was so overwhelmed by this episode.

That "LIVE" geass was a ticking time bomb just waiting to blow and bite Lelouch in the ass.I wonder what he'll do when he realizes that he was the cause of all this.

[nekoi-echizen.livejournal.com]

Damn.. Suzaku.. Guilfort... Sayoko..Nunnally!ç_ç
I did expect that Rolo true intention was to kill Nunnally.. ._.'''
I'm happy that Luciano is dead!Thanks Karen!-w-

[mei-yi.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen it, but couldn't resist the spoilers. And now I'm all spoiled.

Now that he's given up on friendship and has had his morality pet stuffed into a metaphorical blender (assuming Nunnally is actually dead and not... hiding...) I reckon it's time for some insane suicidal tactics from Lulu!

What would really suck is if at the end the only one left alive is Nina, who gets all 'Whoo, my nuke worked, let's drop a few more and wipe out those nasty Elevens!'

[green-makaka.livejournal.com]

Nunnaly isn't dead, damn it -_-
I just hope everyone understand it -_-

[defade.livejournal.com]

Care to elaborate how she can survive a nuke attack that pretty much wiped out the entire population of Tokyo?

Sayoko might be in possesion of a magic door or what, but right now, all evidence point to that she's dead.

[god-diva.livejournal.com]

Wow. Luciano only lasted like...2 episodes? XD

[mei-yi.livejournal.com]

I really didn't expect him to die so soon... what with him being a Knight of Rounds and somewhat badass. Gino, Anya and Suzaku have been in the fight for ages and managed not to get offed. Gotta be honest, he doesn't look too great in comparison.

[failouch.livejournal.com]

If Lelouch is going to lose his mind like many have predicted (including myself, because I honestly don't see a possibility for a happy ending at this point), the "live on" Geass is key to the plot for the reason that Nunnally's dead will be traced back to Lelouch. I think he will realize this, and if she is really dead, he won't be able to handle the blame and it will make him go crazy.

Also, Zero may want to kill Suzaku, but Lelouch doesn't. If someone else agrees and wants to elaborate on this point, go ahead, because I honestly can't think straight enough at 6am to explain myself here. XD

[mc0820.livejournal.com]

Hey, it's around 6am where I am too! :D

At this point, I really think that their friendship is pretty much irreversible. When Lelouch is in his Zero mode, he's still Lelouch, but with a purpose, and clearly the severed friendship from the last episode indicates that they're over. Especially when Lelouch ordered Kallen to kill Suzaku, there was no hesitation in the way he said it.

...and yeah, it's 6am...

[muhi-kira.livejournal.com]

AT LAST!!!!
KALLEN is back!!!! and beat Luciano hahahahaha

i'm in shocked to know Guilford so fast he ....
i think Sayoko and Nunnally can't be dead yet was in the episode show us their dead body? (if not they will be alive)

[destructo-bot.livejournal.com]

S-someone else who doesn't h-hate Nina... ;_;

I think I love you. <3

[chansonxchou.livejournal.com]

I honestly think both Suzaku AND Lelouch forgot about Suzaku's Geass at that moment, or else Lelouch would have thought about what Suzaku might do. But then again, Lelouch also didn't believe when Suzaku said he had a bomb strapped on him, so maybe Lelouch thought it was okay?

[recodes.livejournal.com]

Lelouch also didn't believe when Suzaku said he had a bomb strapped on him

I bet he was reminded of himself telling he had a bomb on him back in Kaminejima, and thought Suzaku was doing the same thing ~_~

[neltis-screi.livejournal.com]

I knew Suzaku would use the Freya out of the LIVE geass control, but.. I'm still shocked. so intense, i was holding my breath throughout the ep and i didn't even realize it until i was gasping for air.

NINA SHOULD GO TO HELL. I was rooting for her disappearance in this series since the beginning.

Lulu should have deactivated that geass. i knew it was his death warrant. I hope he doesn't blame Suzaku for this. I mean, I hope he doesn't forget he gave him the LIVE geass. I really don't want him to begin putting the blame to someone else. I love him for being the self-convicted person he is who knows how to trace his own faults.

I've finally calmed down. and there's this tiny bit of hope in me that says: somewhere out there, Nunally is alive.


goddamn, i was worrying about Rolo killing Nunally and Sunrise gives me this. I prefer it that way. XP OTL

[recodes.livejournal.com]

Sunrise just wants us all anti-Ninas to boil. They must be so proud now that their plan seems to work on a large scale.

I HOPE he won't go all "It's all your fault, Suzaku!" too. He should know very well that it was his Geass. He knew Suzaku wished to die from the very beginning, after all.

[seynee.livejournal.com]

No, no, no. This episode didn't just kill two of my favorite characters, thank you very much ;_;

Guilford! What happens to one of my pairings, now? ;^;

Is it really, really positive that Nunnally's dead? Like, seriously dead and it's not just a trick Sunrise pulled on us?

Oh, Nina. I always tried not to dislike you until this far, and now you've done it.

[notsoextreme.livejournal.com]

I-i actually liked her, I was loving her interaction with Kannon and Schneizel. A-and now. ohgod, Nunnally.

I dread to think actually watching this, trainwreak episode this will be for me D: *pokes the torrent*

[furato.livejournal.com]

The Suzaku we've been shown until now would not fire a WMD even if it kills him. So when I read that Suzaku would use Freya, I never doubted that it would be under this situation. Especially since Taniguchi said that the live Geass would play a part in R2.

Guilford (T_T)

[bubblefire.livejournal.com]

i declare that whoever kills nina will automatic become my favorite character!

[scuba-dooba.livejournal.com]

seconded.

[kirayamato44.livejournal.com]

Oh Nina I've hated you since season 1 now my hate goes beyond leaps and bounds. I hope that Kanon can increase my love for him and kill table-lover next turn.

Nunnally is not dead youc an be sure of that. This is Sunrise we are talking about. If Muw can come back after being blown to bits this is nothing for Nunnally. though Muw was the man who can make the impossible possible...I'm sure sh'e alive though.

[eriol33.livejournal.com]

holy shi-, I gasped during the nuke scene, especially when seeing the irony that Suzaku activated it because the LIVE geass. OMG, Lelouch will surely break down if he knew the real reason of the tokyo nuke. I wonder how he will develop after this.

Ok, we learnt that Lelouch has considerably developed compared to 1st season, but again, nunally is his most important. With this he has already (accidentally) killed two most important persons in her life, euphie and nunally.

Since sunrise stays cold blood, even went as far killing nunally, I only could predict we will witness more deaths from now on to our remaining favorite characters. Perhaps in the end Lelouch will achieve what he wanted, but we could expect that either he's briefing with all the people he lost or take his humanity off and turning into another tyrant *put evil lelouch smile here*

[lulu-holic.livejournal.com]

stupid sizaku why he pointed out the Freya to where nunnaly is, not at Zero, so i think lulu is not responsible

[kagu-chan.livejournal.com]

He was aiming it at Kallen, who happened to be at an angle between him and the main Government building, so it wasn't that he was intentionally trying to blow up Tokyo; the 'LIVE' Geass just kicked in to make sure he would survive no matter what it took.

[moebot.livejournal.com]

TEAM NINA

[zalem.livejournal.com]

I don't see why Lelouch would know why Suzaku fired Freya. For all he knows Suzaku was going to fire that all along. Though if Suzaku was really so intent on not using Freya, why the hell didn't he just drop the gun off before he went to fight? Why did he bother equipping it?

The live geass comes back to haunt Lelouch. We all knew that would happen eventually...

I don't think Nunnally is dead though. The korean blog spoilers specifically say Asahina died during the attack but say Nunnally is only missing. Missing = Alive in anime world.

[kadekmoment.livejournal.com]

Lelouch ordered a death blow specifically on Suzaku, and he should know that he's Geassed to escape death no matter what. It's not completely obvious, but it should be easy enough for Lelouch to draw the connection. But then, he's not in his right mind right now either so. . . [shrugs]

And imho Suzaku equipped the bomb because whether he likes it or not, he's a Knight of Rounds and working directly under Schneizel and the Emperor. He was given orders to take it, and then make his own decision to use it—which they all but said really translates to "you better or else." If he had tried to leave without even equipping it, they would have taken it as outright insubordination and probably wouldn't even have let him out. After all, this is what Nina and Schneizel wanted—they've both been pressuring Suzaku for a few episodes now.

(also, agreed: I don't think Nunnally is dead either, unless they wanted a reaaaally anticlimactic death for her.)

[starryburst.livejournal.com]

DAMMMMNNNNNNNN. I'm going to hate Lelouch next episode.

I knew Rolo wanted to kill Nunnally. >:) I thought it was obvious. How could anyone doubt?

I LOVE YOU ROLO. ;_________;

[silvatine.livejournal.com]

I LOVE YOU TOO, ROLO.