Code Geass: Episode 3 Discussion

[gods-debris.livejournal.com]

Currently not at home and I’m using my mother’s laptop. I was unable to take screenshots. I apologize! I’ll add them on Monday/Tuesday.

Episode 3 Discussion!

Finally we understand why Lelouch has such distaste for Britannia. Clovis tries to talk Lelouch into returning with him but Lelouch is certain that, if he does, he’ll be taken advantage of and used for political gain. But Lelouch’s main reason for approaching Clovis is about his mother’s death. After not getting much of an answer out of Clovis besides hysteria and claiming he didn’t do it Lelouch finally uses his Geass on his half-brother only to find out that Clovis doesn’t know much about that day and gives us two new names in the Britannia family: Schneizel and Cornelia. And, just like Lelouch, after getting the information he needs he’s completely done with you. Bwah! Poor Clovis. I wish we had more time getting to know his character because he seemed such short lived. Did anyone else notice Lelouch’s full red eye? Does that ever happen again; because I don’t remember him ever being able to “end” his Geass spell to return the person back to themselves. Even later in the episode when he finishes asking Kallen about why she’s a terrorist his eye doesn’t repeat that same action. I wonder if it was something Sunrise thought about using and then decided it wasn’t worth keeping it around.

So back to normal school life. Being VP of the student council must be hard work! Lelouch doesn’t seem to do much haha. It is nice to see Lelouch as a normal student and not the killer he became the night before, but it does seem to have gotten to him. After watching part of a news broadcast and avoiding Shirley’s curiousity he almost throws up. It’s just as Lelouch has said: His nerves aren’t cut out for this just yet. And, what a coincidence, the terrorist girl that he helped is actually a student that attends Ashford! Immediately he knows he has to confront her, but he has the anonymity of Geass. Too bad for Lelouch, but great for us: we find out that he can only use his power once. Nice awkward moment between him and Kallen—immediately she suspects him. I mean, how would he know about Shinjuku? Why tell her not to say anything about it?

C’mon, Lelouch. The terrorist you helped were semi-advanced, right? They had their own Knightmare, right? You’re telling her to do something that requires little to no common sense. Only an idiot would mention Shinjuku—and what’s more, Lelouch, her “school character” is obviously totally different from whom she really is. I think this part is hilarious because anyone would be smart enough not to mention Shinjuku. If anything Lelouch was the stupid one lol. He mentioned Shinjuku! Granted, he thought that Geass would save him again.

Yay, Nunnally is so cute. It’s refreshing to see Lelouch and his sister together. He cares so much about her… He’s willing to lie to anyone but her, how sweet. But also somewhat naïve… But I guess his motivation is to create a world for Nunnally to be safe in. Also, we find out that the girl with green hair from the first episode was an experiment. Apparently she’s been around a while (judging by a WWII-like image). It can’t get out that they were running experiments on that girl which must mean that she is important in some way.

The rest of the episode seems to focus around Lelouch and Kallen and the whole Shinjuku incident. Is that him? I can’t tell from a memory. If it is him… blah blah blah.

Anyways, we do get to see the side of Lelouch that is great with planning. He just knows what that person is most likely to do. The whole bathroom scene is a perfect example. How did he know Kallen was going to try to make him stay? How did he get it down right? If she didn’t stop him would he try to buy time? My question is why the phone in the bathroom? How would you explain that? When the knife came out I got the impression that Lelouch didn’t really plan for that but nevertheless everything played out in his favor…

And the bastard got to see a nice view of Kallen.

Oh, and Lelouch. It seems Suzaku is still alive! And they’re charging him for the murder of Clovis. What are you going to do, Lelouch!

Comments

SPOILERS

[kiraya.livejournal.com]

I wonder if Clovis is really genuinely glad to see Lelouch alive.

Ah, our first look at Marianne's death. I still have trouble seeing how exactly this depiction fits with what we're shown later in R2; maybe the rewatch will help. Also, it's awful to see there's such hatred and division among the Britannians themselves over the commoners-nobles thing, in addition to their racism. I guess it keeps revolutions from happening, though. Ha.

Interesting that in response to "who killed her?" Clovis can only give the names of people who know -- and rather than acknowledging that phrasing, Lelouch thinks they're the main culprits. And Cornelia can't even offer anything later, iirc...

I still wonder if Lelouch's murder of Clovis was because he was on a power-high from the Geass, because he was testing how far he was willing to go, or what. (And it still doesn't stir much of a reaction in me other than "whoa, they actually offed a named character with a background and all this early in the series?")

--and with the flash to Ashford right after, it's almost disconcerting, the differences. But I do love outrageous, flirty Milly.

It's interesting, Lelouch's reaction to the memory of Clovis's death here when we see him do far worse later without batting an eye. I wouldn't say he suffers from a decay of morality, but rather that he becomes inured to it. Still kinda sad, though.

...It bugs me that Kallen's grades are at the top of the class in Ashford -- or so says Rivalz, at least -- but later on (in R2, I think?) Lelouch ranks her among the top members of the Black Knights as one of the least intelligent. Unless he's somehow amassed a collection of supergeniuses, I have trouble believing it.
(I love her temper. "I wish I didn't have to act like a freaking invalid!")

...interesting. Lelouch said to her "answer my questions," but she only answered two before the Geass gave out. And we certainly see no signs of it kicking in later, so... what gives? I thought this thing was supposed to be absolute.

It's either kind of creepy how Nunnally can hear Lelouch coming before a trained ninja, or her blindness really has made her hearing amazing.

You have to wonder what sort of experimentation they were doing on C.C. without the Emperor's knowledge. Pictures of her from the past, a paper on "Freud's theory of the super-ego"...

"I wish the world were a gentle place." "When you can see again, I'm sure it will be." Ouch. OUCH. "I promise." OUCH. (I suppose a sword to the gut's a better way to go than swallowing a thousand needles, though. Marginally.)

He's lying, but "only not to her"... Omission of the truth isn't a lie, huh, Lelouch?

...where the hell did Rivalz get his hands on Moët et Chandon?? Unless it was a present from that old guy in episode 1 or something...

Kallen is way too trigger-happy with that knife. I don't know if she just thinks waving it around is going to automatically make things proceed the way they're supposed to or what.

And the timing on that phone call was just too uncanny. Oh Lulu, always pulling crazy shit like this. At least it's not as unbelievable as the Schneizel thing in R2, though.

...I love Kallen's intensity about things that only lets her notice she's not dressed when someone points it out to her. XD; Actually, I really didn't have much of an opinion on her one way or the other the first time through, but I really find myself liking her a lot this time around.

Suzaku. T_T

Random Observations w/ R2 Spoilers

[nayami.livejournal.com]

- I always love the Kallen/Lelouch interaction in this episode. I actually like their moments much more than I like Kallen/Zero. I also love how completely RECKLESS Lelouch was in discussing Shinjuku without being 100% sure of his power. As I also love how quickly Kallen was able to piece things together. Really, Lelouch, you have a pretty recognizable voice. It makes sense why he designed the Zero mask to alter that. Though it's amusing how quickly Kallen is able to given up her suspicions, despite having Lelouch clearly trying to get her alone to talk to her earlier, showing absolutely no reaction to her threatening him (didn't she think she might have to follow up on how crazy she sounded or did she buy this weird kid really was just going to drop her "game" obsession) and the fact that Zero knew where she was when she had just been named to the council and nobody else even knew about that part of the school. Brilliant on all counts.
- I also wonder if Kallen couldn't have picked a better cover than the sick girl, as it would prove to be pretty dang annoying in a real crisis situation. Though I do like that she stays in school out of wishes for Naoto. Almost like she stays in school at the end of R2 out of Lelouch's wishes. Baw.
- It's interesting that Clovis was managing to keep C.C. a secret from Charles, as Bartley seems to imply since Charles was apparently searching for C.C. for a long time.
- I love Jeremiah's coup for purebloods.
- I get so squee about just watching the council be adorable.
- LOL Shirley's jealousy over Kallen. I like how you even catch a smidgen during Rivalz's teasing Lelouch about his interest in Kallen. You can see Shirley's reaction in the background.
- I also love the way Nunnally's connection to Lelouch is instantly so disarming to people who know him. It always hits them in their opinion spot hard.
- I always find Lelouch's reaction to Clovis' death interesting, even as he taunts himself for being too affected by it. It's interesting how Lelouch distrusts his entire family at this point when he was more comfortable with certain members as a child. His immediately assuming Clovis wants him back so he can use him and Nunnally is especially telling of this.
- So many adorable Britannian history snippets in the school scenes.
- Pizza Hut!
- So much foreshadowing in Lelouch and Nunnally's talk about her seeing and about him lying to her.
- I love Zero's "Q1" nickname for Kallen. So cute.
- I love Lelouch's look of DDD: when he realizes that not only is Suzaku alive but he's also being framed for murder.
- Shirley and Milly are adorable.
- This so has so many convenient happenings. Such as Shirley showing up just as things get tense between Lelouch and Kallen (really what was he going to do? run away? no, that's not suspicious at all. not to mention, she'd catch his slow ass), Kallen being suddenly named to the council just as she and Lelouch are about to have their private talk and Lelouch's Zero phone call coming at the EXACT TIME to save his life. Someone pointed out Kallen's quickness to stabbity in another post, and I have to agree. She doesn't think these things through at all.
- This episode also brought up an interesting point about Geass. How does Lelouch end it? Concentration break? He didn't close his eye when he was talking to Kallen, he just stopped talking because he was taken off-guard. I don't think this ever happens again. It's just an odd outlier.

[ka.livejournal.com]

CC monologue that i always want to skip but always end up just listening to, weee

- JIBUN WO SEKAI SAE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ♥
- oh no clovis died
- man i love the student council
- "you're a 10" omg milly ♥ ♥
- jeremiah would be legit sexy if he didn't have blue hair and orange eyes, wtf
- man i love kallen/lelouch
- lelouch is so pleasant in the first few episodes n'aww
- awww naoto
- nina is actually cute in this episode. TOO BAD I PROFUSELY HATE HER LATER
- LMFAO NUNNALLY "WHAT JUST HAPPENED?"
- more lelouch/kallen nghh :D
- THAT POUCH. IF ONLY YOU'D ACTUALLY USE IT, KALLEN
- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS
- "i won't tell anyone" TELL ANYONE WHAT? that you saw her naked? lolol
- kallen get that phone out of the shower it is a phone it does not belong in the shower
- OH NO SUZAKU!!

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

This is the first episode with a lot of school time, and it's really apparent that the writers of Code Geass put absolutely no effort into making anything about the Britannian school system seem anything but Japanese. Not to mention that Kallen bows when she's introduced to the student council. Anyway, without further ado…

Code Geass Points
R1 Episode 3

+1 Good point, Jeremiah
+2 Thanks for giving Kallen your jacket, Ohgi
-5 This scene doesn't really look like how it looks like in R2…
-1 Seriously, Lelouch, you think CLOVIS did it?
+2 I don't care if it's heartless, this scene is SO BADASS
+5 Milly being Milly
-10 Nina's first appearance >: (
+3 GUUUUUTS
+2 Oh Milly, you pervert
+1 Rivalz wants to join in
-10 SHUT UP NINA
-2 Yeah, Lelouch, I don't believe that lie about "hearing it in real time from a friend" for a second
+1 Aww, delayed reaction to the trauma…why is this endearing? ("I guess I'm not as tough as I thought I was")
-2 This Jeremiah/Viletta thing never goes anywhere
+3 Killing a bee with her BARE HANDS
+1 Aaaaaand Lelouch geasses Kallen!
-3 Oh no, Lulu, she's on to you! You should've tested this more first!
+4 Doting-older-brother Lelouch
+6 Oh right, Lelouch actually has a reason for doing all this!
+5 Oh my God, Nunnally, you are so cute
+4 "Teehee, then you better not tell any lies big brother!" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+1 And Lelouch actually thinks he won't lie to Nunnally…seriously, he keeps this pretense up throughout the series but he lies to her all the time!
+5 Good idea to actually TEST IT eh Lulu?
-8 Kallen, you can't just murder students with no consequences. THINK!
+1 Moet Chambon XD
+3 Champagne shenanigans
+1 Suggestive imagery!
-1 Super-random THIS IS WHY I HATE BRITANNIANS
-10 OH GOD THE PURSE KNIFE…SERIOUSLY, KALLEN, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU STAB HIM?! THINK!
+5 Aaaaand Lelouch resolves the whole thing with a little Xanatos gambit
-1 Okay, seriously, the voice sounds JUST like Lelouch. It could be a coincidence, but you were just talking to him, and now you've heard the voice over the phone…before your excuse for not recognizing him was that you couldn't remember the voice!
-2 Kallen, be less obvious, Lelouch is right there!
+1 Thank you for giving her an obvious out, Lelouch
-30 Damned racist Britannians, Suzaku is innocent!

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

I really need to rewatch this episode for the direction because the episode director is the guy who'll be directing the upcoming FMA movie, but I'm waiting for a phone-call any time now. Boo.

Maybe I'll have time this evening.

[m-nemonica.livejournal.com]

Oh gakuen life, how i have missed youuuu ;;

And oh dear lord Kallen/Lulu in this episode made me weep. I was legit jizzing through the shower scene. The phone call was particularly epic because lmao how could they just stack stuff like this together? It's so beautifully-misplaced in the gakuen setting and it just makes me laugh despite how serious Lelouch is trying to make it out to be.

also Milly, why you make my life so complete. ;w;

/that is all

Spoilery...

[amanuensis1.livejournal.com]

Is it all right that when Lelouch said to Nunally, "Oh, I'd better be careful, I may have to eat a thousand needles some day!" I said, "Nope. JUST ONE REEEEEALLY BIG ONE, bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha."