Plot after episode 11

[defade.livejournal.com]

I found this while surfing through a BBS, the major things that will happen after episode 11. It sounded pretty believable, so I'm sharing this with you guys. But remember, I do not know where the original poster got the info from, so to believe it or not, the choice is yours. It IS quite an interesting piece of info, though.


Text in bold are the actual statements. The others are my commentary.

1. Laksharta(or whatever that guy's name is) appears in episode 12.(The original designer for Guren Nishiki) And to those who think that Guren is impossibly strong since it's Japan-made - you'll have your answer on episode 12. The original designer happens to be a Britannian.
2. Mao appears in episode 13. Another Geass user. Power of Geass related to hearing, the one whom C.C. was communicating with when no one is watching(ep7,8). The one who's directly related to C.C.'s "This time it'll go smoothly" line. C.C. was talking to a place called Daireikai (大霊界) Heh...so the power of Geass can reside in other places...it looks like that C.C. had made a contract with Mao before, but he failed to grant her wishes, and now she's saying that it'll go smoothly with Lulu?
3. Episode 13-15 is considered the Shirley/Mao arc. It does not have any relationship with the main plot, but it's there to explain some big factors of the development in future plots. Actually, do you understand my translation?XD;; Basically it's just there for the explanation of some development. Why Shirley and Mao, though?
4. During episode 13-15, Lelouch's identity will be revealed. So the summary about episode 13 IS true then...it's Shirley who discovered him. He will also be wounded And I was wishing for a bloody Lulu and talking about how that's practically impossible...Sunrise, please give me what I want to see. Shirley and Viletta will go off the stage. In what way, I have no idea. I mean, I really like those two...and I really, really don't want to see them die. Mao will only appear in episode 13-16, but will have a huge impact on future episodes.(especially on Lelouch)
5. You'll experience some changes after using Geass for a long period of time. (e.g. Mao) Don't tell me that Mao guy has super large alien ears or something. That would not be funny at all. Ah, I won't mind if Lulu's eye turns out to be like Allen's, though. EDIT: Actually, the 'changes' turned out to be related with the power of Geass, and not the user's body. Evolution? Mao, after 'changing' and numerous experiences after that, has greatly changed in personality. During 13-15, seems like he was very, very cruel to Lulu.
6. The plot of episode 13-15 takes on a very serious atmosphere...those who are very emotional, please prepare tissues. *prepares tissues*
7. After the Narita Battle, Suzaku becomes Euphemia's official Knight. That was not surprising.*sigh* I guess it's getting more and more official now, isn't it? Suzaku/Euphemia beat the crap out of SuzaLulu in the RC poll.
8. The Second Prince formally appears in episode 18. What? THIS late? I thought he was going to appear at 15 or something....but anyway, Schneziel/Teddy Bears FTW.
9. In the second part of the story, Lelouch's main enemies are Schneziel and Euphemia. Oh...is this a hint that Cornelia will be off'd soon? Maybe after saying that "The Second Prince Schneziel knows about it" and making Lulu a very, very frustrated rebel?
10. In the second part, Lelouch's Order of Black Knights will play a very important part.
11. Characters that are important in the second part(other than the main character): Schneziel, Euphemia, Kallen. Give me some good Kallen development, seriously.
12. In the second part, Lelouch has no choice(the world's condition and his own situation makes him) but to turn more and more evil. Ohhh Yagami Light the 2nd? No thanks.
13. Orange will come back. But in a very shocking way... Don't tell me he's really planting oranges and flying orange flags? Or looney bin? No.
14. After the Shirley/Mao arc, the story will proceed at a breakneck pace. Maybe not breakneck exactly...but you get the idea. The main arc starts after 15.
15. A second main season. Not the changing of op/ed songs, but really a second season. Consider it as an episode extension if you want.
16. Code Geass is Lelouch's story. That's why it's called Lelouch of the Rebellion, isn't it? (I get it, it means that Lulu is the one and only main character of Geass. Yes, that means Suzaku is only a secondary character.)
+17. Everyone noticed that Suzaku changed from 'boku' to 'ore' while C.C. made him see some shock images, right? Turns out that because of the mistakes from his past(possibly related to his parents' death) Suzaku had created another personality for himself during these seven years - the ideal personality to him.(aka Escaping from reality) That's why Lelouch thought Suzaku's personality changed in ep 6.

NEW INFO

1. The Second Prince looks like he's a soft-hearted person, but he is very cruel.
2. Schneziel uses nicknames for Cornelia.
3. Cornelia will survive for a looong time. But there is a chance that she'll die in the final part.
4. The Second Prince might not be Lelouch's enemy alone, but also Suzaku's.
5. The development of Suzaku and Euphemia's relationship is hinted.
6. Everybody will have different opinions on Suzaku
7. Lloyd's real identity will be surprising.
8. The Second Prince and Lloyd have another strong weapon.
9. During the Shirley/Mao arc, all of Lelouch's troubles come from the kiss with Shirley.
10. Basically, Lelouch will have nothing to do with love. And he'll end his relationship with Shirley in his own way. This makes me worry about Lulu actually killing Shirley himself - I mean, she knows about his identity, and 'end this relationship in his own way'...well...it's Lulu's own way.
11. Kallen.......and Tamaki, will continue their ZERO LOVE. Do not ask me the meaning of this sentence.
12. Ougi will be paired up with an unexpected person.
13. Nanaly and Suzaku will be very important characters during the Shirley/Mao arc.
14. During the Mao arc, Suzaku and Lelouch will fight side by side. Not as Zero, but as Lelouch. GOOD. I want to see them cooperate.
15. Kaguya/Sakuya won't be a very important character, won't appear very often.
16. Rivalz=air You get it. Rivalz practically has no screentime or is ignored for the most of the time.
From here. The 38th floor.

There are also rumours about Lulu getting a new Knightmare...L-8 Cromwell. Britannian made. Seemingly...normal but slightly obese (eight thousand something kg)Frame.(Definition of abnormal: Lancelot) But they're just rumours...

Will keep adding new info.


Oh, and when will Pizza Hut continue to support the rebellion?XD;;

Comments

[defade.livejournal.com]

He did, but maybe Lloyd and Clovis have the same mother but not the father? He is an aristocrat....ish, but he doesn't exactly belong to the royal family.

Unless 'brother' is a nickname for Lloyd, which I highly doubt.

[shiroki-tenshi.livejournal.com]

By the way, I like your sarcastic comments. ;)

>> What? THIS late? I thought he was going to appear at 15 or something....but anyway, Schneziel/Teddy Bears FTW.

He's associated with Teddy Bears? How so? I must've missed something...


>> 12. In the second part, Lelouch has no choice(the world's condition and his own situation makes him) but to turn more and more evil. Ohhh Yagami Light the 2nd? No thanks.

Oh dear, poor Nunnally. What happened to adorable!Lelouch who was not so evil to begin with? :D


>> 13. Orange will come back. But in a very shocking way... Don't tell me he's really planting oranges and flying orange flags? Or looney bin? No.

Orange. *smirks* I love eating oranges. But hmm, maybe he becomes a technician...:P


>> +17. Everyone noticed that Suzaku changed from 'boku' to 'ore' while C.C. made him see some shock images, right? Turns out that because of the mistakes from his past(possibly related to his parents' death) Suzaku had created another personality for himself during these seven years - the ideal personality to him.(aka Escaping from reality) That's why Lelouch thought Suzaku's personality changed in ep 6.

Hrrmm...he couldn't have POSSIBLY killed his own parents? X3 Poor child. And he's so loveable! kinda But his Lancelot timings couldn't have been better or worse. XD


>> 10. Basically, Lelouch will have nothing to do with love. And he'll end his relationship with Shirley in his own way. This makes me worry about Lulu actually killing Shirley himself - I mean, she knows about his identity, and 'end this relationship in his own way'...well...it's Lulu's own way.

That hasn't happened yet, right, with Shirley knowing his identity - which one? Zero or Prince? Or both? :D


>> 15. Kaguya/Sakuya won't be a very important character, won't appear very often.

Is she that purple haired character that also attends Ashford Academy? If so, I believe I saw her in the Order of the Black Knights. XD

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

While I'm sure most of the people here on Livejournal have valid reasons for disliking Suzaku, I strongly suspect that most of the bitchy fanboys (and "Lulu-chan"-obsessed yaoi fangirls) who whine about Suzaku are the type who identify too strongly with the hero, regardless of what flaws he may have (personally, I think both Suzaku and Lelouch have flawed philosophies in some ways; Suzaku doesn't seem as unhinged as Lelouch, but if some of these spoilers are true, he might be just as messed up). Therefore, when someone appears to get in his way but still be treated sympathetically by the anime, they get pissed off. It's not fair! Only the bad guys should ever get in their way--I mean, in the hero's way, so that he can quickly mow them down! Grrr! D:<

The Suzaku bashing is a bit much, but I'm mostly annoyed by the Euphemia-bashing myself, as well as the insistence that because she's an ingenue-type princess with pink hair, she is obviously nothing but a clone of Lacus. Despite the fact that she has very different issues than Lacus and also seems more actively interested in improving herself, just to touch on two differences. (Not that Lacus didn't also grow and change, but it was set off by a chance rescue, whereas even before she meets Suzaku, Euphemia is already dealing with troubles and striving to better herself.)

[defade.livejournal.com]

Because nearly everyone in the Britannian royal family is so screwed up, I was hoping with verity_isle that Sunrise would give us a surprise by making Schneziel a cruel, albeit with a love for fluffy things like teddy bears, character.XD;;

I don't mind him going more and more evil...since it can't be avoided, as long as he keeps his sanity and the power of crack hadn't left him.XD;; But I really don't want a Yagami Light-styled anti-hero. Lulu still avoids killing whenever it's possible, and I hope that stays the same...

He becomes half-Knightmare and half-human, the only 8th generation Knightmare.XD;; And then he can go berserk and blow up their lab.

I think that a mistake he made led to the deaths of his parents, and that mistake must've been pretty serious...for someone to develop a secondary personality. And his parents probably blames it on him, since he saw his father during the shock images. I don't know why...but I keep getting the idea that Suzaku has something to do with Marianne's death.-_-;;

According to Asuka, she discovered that he was Zero. Probably after she knew of her father's death and went to Lulu to seek comfort? I don't think she knows about him being a prince though.

No, it's Suzaku's aunt, the dark-blue haired girl appearing behind the curtains(?) in the first opening and later seen standing by Zero's side in the second opening. She has this...pink Japanese traditional dress on, she appeared in the preview of ep 12. The one that attends Ashford is Sophie Wood, and it's been mentioned that she might be a friend(at school) of Kallen's since her name appeared in episode 3.

[sapphire-pyro.livejournal.com]

O_O

It sounds believable. I hope some parts are true . . . but I also don't want some parts to be true O_O

I'm so disgusted on seeing Shirley having a bigger role x_X She's already fine the way she is T_T What's worse is that she's gonna get a kiss from Lulu??? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW * vomits* . . . . Lulu x C.C. for life >_>

I don't like the idea of Lulu becoming extremely evil x_X I already like his current "evil" self. He'll be like Raito the 2nd indeed . . . not good >_>

Such big changes x_X I'm not very sure if I'll be enjoying the second season when these stuff happen x_X

There are some stuff that had excited me though:

Suzaku x Euphie sounding more and more official xD

The 2nd prince looks interesting xD Especially the part when it's mentioned that he calls Cornelia with nicknames xD

Suzaku and Lulu fighting side by side will be awesome.

Knowing Lloyd's true identity makes me VERY excited xD



To the post where you got this from, had that poster made posts like these before and actually turned out true??? x_X *really nervous*

[defade.livejournal.com]

At least you know that she won't appear after episode 15.:DDD And you have to admit...she IS better than Nina.

I really hope that even if Lulu turns more and more evil, he will still avoid killing people if it's possible. I don't want to see another Yagami Light, really.>>;;

Suzaku/Euphie was probably official from the very beginning.XD;; I just hope that people won't keep comparing them with Kira/Lacus.

Well, I checked back a few pages in the forum, and the original poster did make some predictions that turned out to be true, but none of them are as big as this one in quantity(most of them are only a few sentences). So I hope that this turns out to be accurate...or at least mostly accurate.

[defade.livejournal.com]

I've been waiting for it.>:DDD And yes, it's about goddamn time. Episode 13, please come quicker.

I like Viletta too.T_T She's one of the few in the army that I really, really like. So maybe Viletta is just getting a transfer? I personally have nothing against Shirley, but I'd rather have Nina off the stage than her. Nina's been annoying me for a quite long time.

Well...if most of the spoilers above are true, then Lancelot will go berserk once again in the end of the show.:DDD Which is always nice to see.

That would so certainly be shocking. And hey, it's possible! He's like...insane already, and who knows what the scientists have in mind?

But I guess we'll all have to wait. Since according to RC, the second season will air in Fall 2007.;_;*sigh*

Actually it means that Lulu is the only main character in Code Geass. And Suzaku is only a side character along with everybody else, albeit a quite important one. I sure hope that this is true...since I don't really want a second season titled "Suzaku of the Counterattack".DDD:

I'm a little worried about what this is supposed to mean... T_T

The original poster said that Lulu is a character that everyone will find valid reasons to love him in later parts, but whether people will pity Suzaku...depends greatly.

He's the good twin brother of the Britannian emperor and actually Nunally and Lelouch's real father. >D

Noo! He is from CC's tribe, an alien sent to spy on Earth!XDDDD;;;;;

Rivalz is ignored for most of the time, so I guess we should treasure what little screentime we have of Rivalz now?;_;

[empanadas]

I think it's because if the protagonist is uber-badass and at least slightly Machiavellian, then the batshit fans will automatically hate the foil character, whose personality is completely the opposite of the hero. I totally agree what you said about identifying too much with the hero, to the point of forgiving all of his flaws, or at worst, glorifying them. Besides, Suzaku has plenty of eps to be developed. If the 11th episode is of any indication, he was probably tainted by bad things just like Lelouch.

Only the bad guys should ever get in their way--I mean, in the hero's way, so that he can quickly mow them down! Grrr! D:<

"Oh? Badass Lulu-chan made a boo-boo? T'is ok! He's the roxx and evilz, unlike Suzaku, who suxx despite also having flaws!! But he's too perfect and goody!!11area11"

I haven't seen a lot of Euphemia-bashing myself, but wow... I recall someone said that Euphemia sucks because she gets in the way of SuzaLulu. o_o;

Seriously, despite both having pink hair and kind nature, I find myself liking Euphemia much better than Lacus. I guess it's because Euphemia is more gutsy despite her demeanor and, like you said, she strives to improve. She wanted to balance her life as an ordinary girl wanting to explore her surroundings (she did that with Suzaku and had fun at the same time) and her other life as a princess.

(Mind you, I like Lacus well enough and she does take risks; I just relate more to Euphie.)

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Yeah. x_x I wasn't all that interested in Suzaku at first (although I never hated him, plus he was always half my OTP), but I'm looking forward to the development. Unfortunately, once the dumb fanboys and rabid fangirls become set in their ways, not much changes their minds. Fortunately, they're fairly easy to ignore (I call fans like that "the horde" XD), and the more intelligent fans may find themselves taking less issue with Suzaku as he becomes more developed. You never know.

I agree on Lacus and Euphie. I like Lacus a lot, but I find Euphemia the more engaging character to me.

[empanadas]

To be honest, I found Suzaku to be bland as hell in the beginning. Even in the first couple of eps, he's pretty "eh". Even though I warmed up to Suzaku eventually (I could never hate him, no matter how hard I tried. He's too adorable and likeable. xD), he's still lacking. One of my flist argues that he's not cliche even though I disagree with her. Suzaku has similar attributes with Kira Yamato and Syaoran Li (from Tsubasa Chronicle), except he never had to go through being a gene-altered person like the former or having a love interest get the memories of him back like the latter. (Hell, he's practically Syaoran and Sakura's lovechild in the looks and attitude department! =p That's CLAMP for you.)

I have a feeling, though, that the batshit Suzaku haters will increase in time if he's not developed well. Hopefully, this won't be the case. D:

Yup. Euphemia > Lacus. =) Although, Lacus has the better love interest. =p

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

I was "meh" on Suzaku at first, except when he was with Euphemia. But I did get a little bit interested when he started to show his issues and past trauma. Still not that interested, though. Oh well, that could always change as he gets more development.

It's not so much that I feel he's cliche as it is that I don't find him very interesting. Pretty much everybody in Code Geass can be compared to characters from other anime or manga, even the supposedly oh-so-original ones like Lelouch and C.C. :) (Although I think Lelouch is probably the most original of the lot, not because he's oh-so-dark and ~*~cool~*~ but because of the way he uses strategy and leadership.)

[empanadas]

Understandable. =3

Character-wise, Suzaku needs spicing up! I still like him, but yeah. =3

(Ah Lelouch, how I love thee. ♥ He's pretty refreshing for a dark character. If Code Geass was 100% cliche, Lelouch would've been the typical archrival/villain who would've been stuck in emoland. Luckily, the writers made his character work wonders, really. :D This is what I said about Lelouch in the meme I made-up at my Lulu comm (Copy-pasted due to lazyness):

He's a very unique character with his set of goals. He's intelligent, ambitious, manipulative, and doesn't wallow in angst; if he does, he bounces right out of it. Lelouch is a great tactician who uses chess metaphors (since he's a great chess player afterall) and isn't afraid of using people as pawns. Yet, he does all of this to avenge his mother and make a better world for Nunnally. It also helps that this guy has weird (yet hot) fashion tastes and a sense of justice, despite his personality... Lelouch is also a flawed individual who makes mistakes and has a tendency to underestimate his enemies [which often leads to defeat or in danger as he finds out through battles]. :D)

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Lelouch is definitely awesome. I love all the contrasts he has--between being brilliant strategically and kind of an idiot in the social sphere; between being ruthless and even somewhat crazy for the sake of his goals and gentle and kind to his sister; between wanting to destroy Britannia for the sake of vengeance and wanting to destroy it for the sake of the world. I still love Euphemia the best, but Lelouch is definitely my second-favorite. ♥

[empanadas]

Lelouch has lots of layers and sublayers to his character! :D He's deliciously complicated.

Do you mind if I friend you? We seem to have most things in common so... :D

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I can't wait to see more of them. :D

[shiroki-tenshi.livejournal.com]

Yeah, who knew Cornelia would have a kind side through Euphemia? I mean, how did a sweet young thing turn out to be the way she is now? XD But teddy bears...ROFL...if that comes true, it'd be the most hilarious thing ever!

Evil...poor Nunnally. She'll be very frightened indeed, now that her brother's become a madman. X3 But as long as he's sane...he'll have a good chance knowing what he does. :) And he better not kill! unless it's anyone from the Brittanian royal family

Oh dear, half a machine? Now that's just twisted. He's so deranged trying to chase Zero. It somewhat reminds me of an anime character, though I don't remember which one. :)

Oh, regret of the past. Maybe that has to do with his being in the army and not wanting any more people to die? Poor guy...emo!Suzaku = emo!Shinn But he didn't know of Lelouch back then, so why would he have something to do with his mom? XD

Shirley's father dies? Pity. Pity indeed. Pity she somehow finds out he's Zero. Oh dears.

Ah, her. She looks like she's unrelated to Suzaku related to C.C. :) And Sophie Wood, she was that new character whose picture was released, right? I think she is part of the Order of the Black Knights...I think? But I am so wrong because I just found her picture and she hasn't been introduced yet. How silly of me. XD

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

not gonna comment on the rumours until i get time to read it, and being extremely off-topic, WHEN THE HECK DID YOU GET YOUR INTERNET BACK? DDDD:

[defade.livejournal.com]

Yesterday morning. And you? Your internet working again or only for some sites?

[brennadouglasmw.livejournal.com]

o_O

...

I still don't get it. >_>

Does Schneizel really drive a KnightBear?

[brennadouglasmw.livejournal.com]

Actually it means that Lulu is the only main character in Code Geass. And Suzaku is only a side character along with everybody else, albeit a quite important one. I sure hope that this is true...since I don't really want a second season titled "Suzaku of the Counterattack".DDD:

LOL, I know! I was just laughing that it even had to be said that it was his story. XD

whether people will pity Suzaku...depends greatly

... I actually am kind of excited to see what they do to with Suzaku. I mean, while he's not exactly a character I like, I think it will definitely be interesting to see how they break him.

Noo! He is from CC's tribe, an alien sent to spy on Earth!XDDDD;;;;;

... You're joking, right? *almost wants to believe you*

we should treasure what little screentime we have of Rivalz

T_T I know... My poor Rivalz needs L♥VE. *huggles him*

[brennadouglasmw.livejournal.com]

LOL.

I think the reason I find him irritating is because he's gotten more and more... preachy? pretentious? I can't think of a good word, but it drives me nuts to no end. I think he's sort of a hypocrite/self-appointed martyr type. *shrugs* I don't know. His attitude just rubs me the wrong way. I think I will like him a lot better if they end up writing him as a psycho. XD

Granted, he's pretty cute.

ZOMG, where did you find Geass phone charms?!

[brennadouglasmw.livejournal.com]

I don't hate him either, he's just irksome. Like an itch you just can't reach to scrath, or something. XD

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

DDDDDDDD: 6pm or so? o__o well that was the time when my friend txted me and told me she could go on MSN... so i guess sometime then? DDD:

i haven't checked all the sites i go to, but as long as LJ and hotmail work, i'm fine :D

lucky you ;___; yesterday ;__;

[kaito-1412.livejournal.com]

I don't know. The Kira after chapter 60 was somehow appealing, and I wouldnt mind Lelouch turning like that. I prefered the Kira in the L arc though, and I would also prefer Lelouch to stay the same as he is right now

[shad-fg.livejournal.com]

Suzaku is just. like the others said, getting more annoying and more of a kira yamato wannabe as the series continue.

But reading people's comments, I have to say I really am noticing the Suzaku bashing now it's neen pointed out to me and it's very strange. I might have to take up actively hating on Lelouch to counter balance it a little. ^-^
In every anime, there are usually some people that one support and some that one doesn't support, isn't it? ^^ If one supports Lelouch, it would probably sound like Suzaku bashing hmm? Everybody is entitled to their own opinion right? ^^

I have also noticed many bitter Gundam Seed comparisons and that makes me wonder why people watch either Gundam Seed or this if they dislike the supposed (I haven't seen GS) comparisons so. Weird. But this phenomenon seems to be endemic in fandom.
The SEED similarites are a little irritating but I guess people watch it for the plot, the development so the comparisons doesn't even matter. There are so many other good stuff in Code Geass that can "cover" over the "bitter Gundam Seed comparisons" and make people ignore them, but I guess, being fans and especially girls who dislikes certain stuff, we would jump at the opportunity of expressing our annoyance at some things and might be a little too exaggerating at times? ^^