Turn 13 and Rolo...

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You guys can contribute to this after you've watched Turn 13, but now I just want to let this all go from my chest.

So Cornelia just got herself into trouble with V.V. I wonder what's going to happen to her.

But that's no big deal.

I now fear Rolo's existence. I knew I wanted Shirley to die (sorry Shirley fans!) but I damn well never wanted Rolo to be the one who killed her!

We know Lelouch said at the beginning that he wanted to use Rolo and then discard him like trash. I was hoping that he'd change as time goes by, that he won't do that to Rolo.

But now that Rolo killed Shirley... I don't know what's going to happen after this. It's like Suzaku and Lulu and Euphy all over again.

And I was looking forward to Rolo joining Lulu in the final stage with Vincent to. Think he still have the chance?

Or is this the cue telling us that Sunrise is going to kill off Rolo too in the end?

*sigh*

EDIT:

Don't you think it's just so heartbreaking when Lulu tried to order Shirley "DON'T DIE!!" repeatedly? T_T

And Jeremiah is so LOVE in this episode :)

Link: My rant and review on Turn 13 + screencaps.

Comments

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

One thing I noticed though, for those of you going crazy about Rolo killing Shirley--

1. We didn't actually SEE Rolo kill Shirley on screen. Leaving room for speculation.

2. The wound looks ROUNDISH to me, like a bullet hole instead of a knife wound.

Who carries a knife? Rolo.
Who carried a gun? Shirley. And possibly some other guy who walked in on the scene/wanted to shoot Rolo but missed or something.

Though it was implied that Rolo did it, (and I kinda like this version) knowing Geass and its penchant for twistiness, I'm going to bet that MAYBE it wasn't all it was implied to be.

After all, we didn't see Suzaku after he went in. What if *gasp!* he tried to shoot Rolo or something when he saw Rolo about to knife up Shirley, and accidentally hit her?

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME AND EPIC in my opinion, cuz it would make Suzaku go all crazy all over again. :D And it would be the whole Euphie thing in reverse. Awesome.




DO IT, SUNRISE.

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Wait... Was the gun around when Lulu found Shirley? I didn't notice...

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

Yes it was, in her hand to be exact...


I smell something seriously fishy here...

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Dang...

[demyx.livejournal.com]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.

The problem is that it would have been no trouble for Rolo to just grab the gun from Shirley. Not to mention, I think the gun was gone when Lelouch arrived on the scene (someone clarify this?). Things aren't looking good for Rolo, to tell the truth. I mean, we'll see.

I really want this to be the case. *sob* I'm just hoping there is a reason why we didn't actually see the murder happen and it wasn't just a "yeah fill in the blanks. Fill in the blank, and DESPAIR."

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

If we could see Euphie get shot, I'm sure we could have seen Shirley get (shot?) as well.

But because we DIDN'T--this makes me wonder.

I'm going to go back and look for the gun on the scene, but a part of me kinda wants Suzaku to have accidentally killed her. I just love angst for that boy.

I don't know if the gun was on scene when Shirley was found, I need to check again. But either way...I still smell something funny here.

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but a part of me kinda wants Suzaku to have accidentally killed her.

THIS, I HAVE TO AGREE!!!!
Oh how I'd love this if it's true...

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

JUST CHECKED, OMG THE GUN WAS ON THE SCENE WHEN SHE WAS FOUND! D:


...Omg speculation, omg...

[demyx.livejournal.com]

YEAH! EXACTLY, they showed Euphie getting shot, I figured there wasn't really much of a reason to leave out Shirley getting shot. They showed worse on the show before.

And the gun... If Rolo did do it, he must have been really shocked to just leave the murder weapon. This is a trained assassin, he wouldn't leave tracks. dskljdlsa.

Furthermore, if he did it, wouldn't he finish the job? Shirley was still alive! I mean, this kid kills people for a living, I don't think he would have left her alive long enough to potentially tell someone who did it. I know she must have been shocked from getting shot so quickly, but the last person she saw was Rolo... therefore...?

MAYBE THERE'S HOPE YET. WE NEED APOLLO JUSTICE STAT TO GET ROLO OUT OF THIS.

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

I don't think they left it out for gruesomeness sake, but rather scene flow. All you need is the set up. Had we seen her get shot, the following scene would be lost in the sudden surge of emotion.

Euphy's death had a much different set-up. The whole sequence was mass slaughter caused by her Geass. The audience sees her get shot as it's from Suzaku's perspective. Since all the players are present, there's no need to obscure her getting shot. In fact, it would weaken the moment as it's the climax of the scene. (It's been awhile since I've seen the episode, and that's what I remember, pardon any inaccuracies)

Shirley getting shot is not the only plotline at her moment. There's also Orenji's defection. She what Shirley is doing and what Lelou is doing have to be balanced. Showing the second up to the shot is sufficent in building the tension just enough that it doesn't overpower the next scene. We can focus on the Gottwald scene while fretting for Shirley, or dreading what Rolo will do. Had we seen it, the entire scene would've been overshadowed by, "He did it!, I can't believe he mother-f*cking did it!" We also don't get confirmation of her fate until Lelouch does. If Lelou had been in the room, we would've have seen her get shot. since her death itself is the climax of the sequence, her being shot only needs to be set-up, not depicted.

As for why he didn't finish her despite being a "pro". Maybe the act of shooting her made him snap, realising he'd just hurt his brother with his actions. He could of realised Lelouch was bound to find her, and figured being around wouldn't be good. With his time stopping ability, he probably figured she'd be too bewildered to figure he did it, so the odds of her blabbing were slim.

The real reason - then we wouldn't have the heartbreaking farewell. Lelou finding her dead would be sad. Lelou finding her dying, with him powerless to stop it and her pouring out how much she wanted to mean to him, heartbreaking and character defining. She had a great death, which eases the pain of seeing a beloved character go. Shame she only got to kiss Sayoko (not that she knew that...) Or even a sappy "I love.." from either character.

Besides, only Suzaku was on the scene, and unless he wanted her dead, he wouldn't have left her to bleed to death. It's not in his character. For him to shoot her and leave her, he'd either want her dead, or be oblivious that he'd done it.

So either Rolo did it, or an unknown third party. Besides, imagine the drama the second Lelou finds out... It's the perfect way to finish him off. I bet he even endangers Nunnaly. I just hope they don't pull a "Tenchi in Tokyo" moment (you messed with my family, but since you're obviously just a confused little child, I won't so much as even spank you).

[klingon-jedi.livejournal.com]

Wow, I've been so caught up in the death scene that I forgot the order of events. So forget the Orenji thing. ^_^;;

Still, omitting the shooting allows us to confirm things with Lelou, and leaves open Rolo's train of thought for speculation. Unlike Euphy, all players weren't present, and Rolo's reaction was decided to be unknown, whereas we know Lelouch's thoughts as he shot Euphy.

Still, did Lelou really need more tragedy to motivate him? No, but Shirley couldn't serve a better purpose at this point I suppose, outside of being the girl he could've came home to (assuming he comes home).

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

I hate you a little for making me think of plausible scenarios in which Suzaku could have shot Shirley. =(

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

I still say that it would have been awesome. :D

[mikoto-chan13.livejournal.com]

Hey, I kinda like your "it was Suzaku" theory, and I also think it would be interesting if it was like the Euphie thing in reverse (even though I still think it's cool/cruel enough if Rollo did it XD), but it actually made me think of another... scarier... theory >w<;;;; : What if Suzaku killed Shirley and did it -on purpose-? *A* Even though I believe his character is fairly ambiguous, he's been acting a little too "kind" lately compared to the ending of S1 and the beginning of R2, and (I confess) a lot more softer from what I had expected. Probably it wouldn't be particularly good for him to have Shirley on Lulu's side (for example if he still happens to believe Lelouch doesn't remember his Zero past, it wouldn't be convenient if Shirley told him...), and what do we know, perhaps he still wants to revenge his beloved Euphie and he's not as forgiving as Shirley was.

But oh well, I don't know if I actually believe this myself, it's just a wild theory ><;;; I wouldn't have probably even considered anyone else than Rollo killing Euphie unless you have brought it up.

[schizofragile.livejournal.com]

Aaaand point is Shirley didn't say Rolo killed her. Idk. Wry Shirley wrrryyy.

I have a hunch Rolo didn't kill her. 75% possibility bb.