Okay, there's numerous discussions on turn 14 and I just want to add my 2 cents and focus on one of my favourite characters: Rolo 

 Is it me was the episode horribly rushed? I predict that R2 is the season which would end Code Geass and it wont be a pretty ending.

I was surprised that Rolo admitted it so clearly that he killed Shirley (let's ignore Lelouch's creepy smile*I will kill you*smile) but taking a moment to remember that Rolo grew up as an assassin and still is. So, say you grew up killing cockroaches when you see them, unnecessary and disgusting but you would still do it. Initially you feel disgust at killing them but sooner or later it's just a matter of seeing one and *whack!*. Not to say you actively hunt for cockroaches to kill but if one craws into your precious cookie jar and threatens to contaminate the whole batch wouldn't you kill it immediately?.....okay that was a horrible analogy but that's how I see the realtionship between Rolo, Lelouch (precious one) and Shirley (and all the others he killed in the past who threatens him or his organization).

Rolo places Lelouch above everything (talk about 180 degrees fith dimension diagonally from the first few episodes) so it's only his -so ingrained it's- natural reaction to anything remotely threatening to Lelouch and his ideals. Plus Rolo and Shirley was never close so he felt no remorse at killing her......Although, it shows later with the Geass kids who obviously knows Rolo ("Rolo-niisan") and they seem to look up to him and he seems fond of them in return but that is not enough compared to his 'love/adoration/obsession' for his niisan.

I felt a physical tug of pain at the though of one-sided love obsession from Rolo and Lelouch's intent to sacrifice him. Even without Shirley's death Lelouch had already placed him on deathroll for the fact that he impersonated his beloved Nunally. Add in the factor that V.V mentioned Rolo's Geass gives him heart-attack consequences everytime he use it heads towards the shithole for the character that is Rolo. *sigh folornly*

Yup...*adds one to the death count of "Code Geass characters to die"*

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-I think I fell in lust with Conelia's new hair style, in like with the thought of her and Lelouch against V.V and fell in soul-deep-kneeling-and-grovelling LOVE with her unknowningly saving Rolo!!!

-I noticed he kept some of his 'soldier's' out of battle because I think they would be the one most vocal and questioning at his massacre.

-my heart skipped a beat at the sight of vunerable V.V towards the end 

-I dont know about suzaku but lelouch went down on my like metre...

Thus ends my useless ranting
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 11:40 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] dark-depth.livejournal.com
I think there has been news that Code Geass will end in R2. and yea, the ending would probably suck >_<

Oh Rolo! I hope that you would be saved too.
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 15:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
-I noticed he kept some of his 'soldier's' out of battle because I think they would be the one most vocal and questioning at his massacre.

Image (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v312/SigmaXcel/Gundam/?action=view&current=motivator3743349.jpg)
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 16:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
No problem! I'm shocked it wasn't a hate reply! ^_^

I had to make it after Turn 14, just something about it bothered me. XD

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Date/Time: 2008-07-14 16:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
A bit too politically incorrect?
Date/Time: 2008-07-15 15:57 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com
I dont lelouch even a tiny bit, those kids were not only creepy but completly loyal to V.V.
And its not like we can try to convince them he might have been a bad guy
bit hard to do that if they start mind controlling you into stabbing yourself in the face.
Date/Time: 2008-07-15 15:58 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com
blame lelouch*
Date/Time: 2008-07-15 18:54 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
Still doesn't make the act any less heinous.
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 02:46 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com
These people were experimenting on the children as well, either abducting or using their own (there were alot of women researchers there, i dont know if they showed alot of them hoping people would make this link)
I know rolo was an orphan but i doubt they all were.
They were also training these kids to be killers.
Lelouch couldn't have left them running around couldn't have locked them up, he didnt have much of a choice.
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 02:53 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
Children are just that - children. They have no grasp of Right and Wrong.

Slaughtering Innocent children with this lame excuse does not justify it in any way of the word.

So regardless of your viewpoint, the actions the Black Knights took here of pure slaughter is just that of the SS.

And it isn't even the fact that Lelouch killed them all because it would make the world a safer place, far from it. He killed them all because he was all pissy that Shirley died over his own stupidity. That is why it is a TOTALLY evil act, it isn't for the good of the world, but for his own lust for revenge and blood.
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 03:01 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com
Experimenting on and abducting children isnt a lame excuse, i understand where your coming from though.
One way or the other the cult would have to have been destroyed though.
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 03:01 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zerorevenge.livejournal.com
No, I agree. It's a harsh thing to order, but the way Lelouch went at it just really struck a chord with me.
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 03:06 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tarkara.livejournal.com
He blames Geass as a general thing for Euphemia too, hell he probably blames V.V. for the Suzaku Vs. Lelouch stand-off at the end of Season 1 and definatly is pissed at him for stealing nunnally. Lelouch's mind couldnt take it anymore and just went "screw it ill just kill them all now" i guess lol
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 15:23 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] reita66.livejournal.com
yes, i totally agree with what you're saying, the episode did seen like it was rushed...
and yes Lelouch also went down a few notch in my like scale too...b/c he wanted to sacrifice Rolo of his 'sin' for killing Shirley...<________<
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 16:34 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] konataizumi-san.livejournal.com
Actually, I disagree with the fact that Rolo killed Shirley as a potential threat. I believe he killed Shirley because of jealousy. Shirley admitted that she knew and wanted to help. Had he killed her because he believed that she was a threat Shirley would have only been able to get out the fact that she knew about Lelouch being Zero.
He killed her out of jealously because if you remember a few episodes ago during the Cupid Graduation event, he did not look pleased or happy in the slightest when Shirley had Lelouch's hat.
He let Shirley say what she had to say. And when she said I want to help Lulu, Rolo lost it and killed her. Rolo wants to be the only one in Lelouch's life. He wants him all to himself and that's going to be his downfall in the end.
Either that, or his Geass will eventually kill him. My opinion btw, so please don't flame me for it.
Date/Time: 2008-07-14 17:00 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] shinatsu.livejournal.com
Seconded as well. In that totally cracktastic sorts of matchmaking episode with the hats and stuff, Rolo looked more than just annoyed at the fact that Shirley got to grasp his niisan's hat.
Date/Time: 2008-07-15 01:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kuroshin.livejournal.com
I never actually liked Suzaku. Plus him using refrain on Kallen juat makes me hate him more. All I can say is that Rolo is just way jealous. Thirding the sentiment.

And I still have a man-crush on Lelouch no matter what happens~ I do feel his pain with Shirley.

I do agree that the ep was kinda rushed.
Date/Time: 2008-07-15 05:20 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] neltis-screi.livejournal.com
i have to agree with you. Rolo killed Shirley out of jealousy. look at how he reacted when Shirley mentioned the very name of Nunally. it's what triggered him to do it. but he doesn't admit and says I'LL KILL EVERYONE WHO IS A THREAT TO MY NII-SAN. but I'm not hating on Rolo yet. he is such a pitiful boy. *cuddles him* XP
Date/Time: 2008-07-16 14:40 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] hibiemi.livejournal.com
All I can say is that my heart breaks everytime Rolo does his best to please his nii-san ;_; I-- I kinda can't bring myself to point fingers at anyone although gee, Byronic/Gothic hero much, Lelouch? Shall I bring you to my Gothic Literature classes?

Poor, poor baby Rolo... I also feel bad for those little children who looked up to him, too :(

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