Wasn't it also plainly obvious that Rolo too was going to die at some point? I mean, Lelouch did say he was going to do it numerous times.
I think I've already said this to you, I've lost track of all the comments, but Rolo was annoying. Plus can you really excuse a killer due to the environment he was raised in? Furthermore, unless during that death scene of his he showed remorse for his actions, he never showed any remorse for his actions.
Even if he did though, I think I'd still hate him.
I know why he wanted to kill her, I'm not retarded.
Out of curiosity, if Rolo was some big dude with a beard or something, would you still be upset about his death?
Any of the cast is up to die at any moment. This is how Sunrise works. I read the Korean Blog Spoilers and knew he was going to die, but that doesn't make it any less upsetting for me. And yes, I would still be upset if he were some big dude with a beard or something because of the manner of his death, not simply because of what he looks like. I like Rolo as a character partially because of his appearance but more for his personality/background, and thus am upset about his death because of how it occured, not just because he happens to also be eyecandy.
No, Rolo never showed remorse, and I'm willing to believe it's because he didn't know how. Nothing excuses killing people, but given Rolo's upbringing and background, the blame cannot be placed entirely on him. I never said he was entirely blameless, just that he cannot be blamed completely.
The environment one is brought up in, the conditions for the crime, and the motive behind killing make a difference in how a person is tried or convicted in murders all the time.
See this is what I find disturbing in a lot of the arguments for Rolo here. So much "it's not his fault" or "he is not to blame". Not you hales731, but some of the other comments here state these things over and over. Hell, there is an example a few posts below. I mean that's the same logic killers and other criminals use in court all the time. I just don't buy it. Sure the upbringing has something to do with how he behaves now, but he is not blameless.
I pitied Rolo this episode. But I can't say I cried for him and I can't say I'm not glad his character is gone. I always found his Lelouch obsession extremely creepy and disturbing. But I do admit it is due to Rolo's actions that Lelouch has regained his sanity and is on the path to redemption.
Thank you. I acknowledge that Rolo did a lot of wrong things, and yes, he is partially (sometimes greatly) to blame for some of them. Killing is unforgivable. However, because he was brought up the way he was, his perception of right and wrong is skewed a "if it's going to help me/my mission, it's right" point of view. Were he brought to trial for his crimes, this would probably make a difference in how he'd be convicted. Probably manslaughter rather than homicide.
And it's not fair to blame just Rolo for killing people when Lelouch and Suzaku have done just as terrible things if not worse. There's no point in hating on one person for doing wrong when there are others who are just as bad. I can understand if a person dislikes Rolo because of other aspects of his personality (like your own example of his obsession being creepy), but to hate him just because he killed another character seems rather hypocritical if other characters that have killed aren't hated as well.
See, I didn't hate Rolo because he killed Shirley. To be honest, I never really cared for Shirley. It's the reason he killed Shirley. It's the same reason he was going to kill Nunnally. It's that insane obsession/possessiveness of his and I just can't stand it. One can say that is due to his upbringing too, but it doesn't make me hate that aspect of his character any less.
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I think I've already said this to you, I've lost track of all the comments, but Rolo was annoying. Plus can you really excuse a killer due to the environment he was raised in? Furthermore, unless during that death scene of his he showed remorse for his actions, he never showed any remorse for his actions.
Even if he did though, I think I'd still hate him.
I know why he wanted to kill her, I'm not retarded.
Out of curiosity, if Rolo was some big dude with a beard or something, would you still be upset about his death?
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No, Rolo never showed remorse, and I'm willing to believe it's because he didn't know how. Nothing excuses killing people, but given Rolo's upbringing and background, the blame cannot be placed entirely on him. I never said he was entirely blameless, just that he cannot be blamed completely.
The environment one is brought up in, the conditions for the crime, and the motive behind killing make a difference in how a person is tried or convicted in murders all the time.
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I pitied Rolo this episode. But I can't say I cried for him and I can't say I'm not glad his character is gone. I always found his Lelouch obsession extremely creepy and disturbing. But I do admit it is due to Rolo's actions that Lelouch has regained his sanity and is on the path to redemption.
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Thank you. I acknowledge that Rolo did a lot of wrong things, and yes, he is partially (sometimes greatly) to blame for some of them. Killing is unforgivable. However, because he was brought up the way he was, his perception of right and wrong is skewed a "if it's going to help me/my mission, it's right" point of view. Were he brought to trial for his crimes, this would probably make a difference in how he'd be convicted. Probably manslaughter rather than homicide.
And it's not fair to blame just Rolo for killing people when Lelouch and Suzaku have done just as terrible things if not worse. There's no point in hating on one person for doing wrong when there are others who are just as bad. I can understand if a person dislikes Rolo because of other aspects of his personality (like your own example of his obsession being creepy), but to hate him just because he killed another character seems rather hypocritical if other characters that have killed aren't hated as well.
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