Yet another kind of half-witted discussion from me.

[icki-akki.livejournal.com]

As if I haven't been posting enough of these things already. xD Buuut, I've seen a lot of discussion going on in threads and stuff, so... Here we go? Spoilers for Turn 19. Oh, and if you're not fond of capslock... I'm sorry about that?

Okay, so there's obviously a lot of guns courtesy of the fandom pointed at his head right now (LOL). All I can say is that I was really disappointed. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED. I WANTED MORE ANGST AND YET GOOD HEARTEDNESS AND STUFF LIKE THE OUGI FROM R1. ;____________; I guess I'm happy that there's some VilettaxOugi going on, but... There are a lot of unhappy plotholes that need to be filled. Too many for my liking.

Even though I'm disappointed, I guess I can't really blame Ougi all that much. He's just an average guy, after all, and of course the fandom knows much more about Schneizel than anyone in the series, except for Kanon, pretty much. I mean, he's obviously been betrayed regarding the information he's been given. The fact that the Euphinator incident was an accident is something that not many people are aware of. And even Lelouch himself didn't admit that to Suzaku, making him seem like even more of a bad guy.

Lelouch also uses the BK as his pawns. I think he may have grown somewhat attached to them, but still, they're really just pawns. And besides- A betrayal was totally obvious, you have to admit. Half the fandom predicted it. If it wasn't Ougi betraying Zero, then it would have been one of the other Black Knights.

Edit: Sorry about my random spazzing, lol? But I really just wanted to know all thoughts regarding Ougi's betrayal. Any chance the Black Kngihts will end up feeling bad for what they've done and running straight back to Lulu? I have a feeling they will, seeing as they were stupid enough to get mindfucked by Schneizel(sp?). I also wanted to see other thoughts regarding Ougi's character development in R2 verses R1.

Comments

[zoidwhiteshadow.livejournal.com]

...I'm not sure what this discussion is about?...

This is my reflection on what I think you might be saying?...

I don't really see any of The Black Knights as backstabbers. I mean, look at it from their point of view. They killed all those geass kids (they thought they were just unarmed people, including women and children. Zero really doesn't give a crap about what's going on besides finding (as far as they know) the governor, and these people come in and tell them that he's really a prince, and he might have control over all of them?

I think I would react in the same was they did.

Just my two cents. (Also, I haven't read any of the other discussions, so if this has already been brought up, sorry. >> It's also kinda off topic? [What is on topic?])

[zoidwhiteshadow.livejournal.com]

Clarification of what I said...might be using geass on all of them (since they didn't really explain how it works, and that you can only use it once per person, etc).

Also told them that he ordered Euphie to kill all the Elevens...

Granted, it's biased/one sided information that they're getting, but they've been having suspicions for a while, and this just fueled it.

[zoidwhiteshadow.livejournal.com]

Also, I support VilettaxOugi, even if I don't even get how they're back together (are they? kinda?), if last I saw of them, Viletta was talking about how she'd never be with a dirty Eleven like him (or something like that. >>)?

And I doubt that Cornelia knows Guilford's dead. Who would have told her? Also, I need to have all my thoughts at one time instead of like this. >>

[icki-akki.livejournal.com]

Yeah. And wasn't Ougi hit with Sayoko's ninja... Things or whatever? We never see his injuries, afterwards or anything. I also want to know what happened before he went back to BK headquarters and met up with Diethard and everything. There are a lot of plot holes, but I think those will be filled later on.

Sorry about the confusion. I just kind of spazzed on the keyboard- But I'll try to make the post sound more coherant.

[zoidwhiteshadow.livejournal.com]

That's what I want to know! How'd they go from falling down into a river to alright?! He didn't even look injured, or anything (if my memory serves me right?)

[icki-akki.livejournal.com]

Hm, but his wounds were probably covered...? He got hit in the chest area after all.