Yet another kind of half-witted discussion from me.

[icki-akki.livejournal.com]

As if I haven't been posting enough of these things already. xD Buuut, I've seen a lot of discussion going on in threads and stuff, so... Here we go? Spoilers for Turn 19. Oh, and if you're not fond of capslock... I'm sorry about that?

Okay, so there's obviously a lot of guns courtesy of the fandom pointed at his head right now (LOL). All I can say is that I was really disappointed. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED. I WANTED MORE ANGST AND YET GOOD HEARTEDNESS AND STUFF LIKE THE OUGI FROM R1. ;____________; I guess I'm happy that there's some VilettaxOugi going on, but... There are a lot of unhappy plotholes that need to be filled. Too many for my liking.

Even though I'm disappointed, I guess I can't really blame Ougi all that much. He's just an average guy, after all, and of course the fandom knows much more about Schneizel than anyone in the series, except for Kanon, pretty much. I mean, he's obviously been betrayed regarding the information he's been given. The fact that the Euphinator incident was an accident is something that not many people are aware of. And even Lelouch himself didn't admit that to Suzaku, making him seem like even more of a bad guy.

Lelouch also uses the BK as his pawns. I think he may have grown somewhat attached to them, but still, they're really just pawns. And besides- A betrayal was totally obvious, you have to admit. Half the fandom predicted it. If it wasn't Ougi betraying Zero, then it would have been one of the other Black Knights.

Edit: Sorry about my random spazzing, lol? But I really just wanted to know all thoughts regarding Ougi's betrayal. Any chance the Black Kngihts will end up feeling bad for what they've done and running straight back to Lulu? I have a feeling they will, seeing as they were stupid enough to get mindfucked by Schneizel(sp?). I also wanted to see other thoughts regarding Ougi's character development in R2 verses R1.

Comments

[soaker87.livejournal.com]

I know I'm in the vast minority of Code Geass fans in that Ougi was always one of my favorite characters, and still is after this point. I actually thought that the whole betrayal thing made sense, because the evidence that the Black Knights were presented with essentially the truth.

Ougi's goal from the beginning was to liberate Japan, and that's exactly what he tried to do in this episode. So I don't see it as out of character for him. I actually feel like he's grown a lot as a character, and if he was the same as he was in season one, then he probably would've been the idiot in this episode that people are making him out to be. In the beginning, he really wasn't a great leader, and was pretty much unconfident, but he always wanted to carry out Naoto's dreams. I think since he met Villetta, he's been forced to do more things for himself and basically become a stronger person. And in this episode, he did what he felt was best for Japan, which probably wouldn't be to follow a Britannian prince who has the ability to manipulate people's actions. It probably doesn't help that Zero, instead of denying what Schneizel told them, basically admitted to the Black Knights that he was using them.

Finally, I think Ougi still did regret what he did. Both he and Tamaki seemed really upset by the whole thing.