Alright, so I was just rewatching the end of turn 25...

When Lelouch puts his hand to Suzaku's mask and spreads blood on it, do you guys think it's possible that he showed Suzaku that he had code?
After I saw the end the first time, I was thinking that Lelouch is totally carriage man/paper crane, and if this is true, then he must have gained immortality.  So I'd imagine that code/geass is involved.

UH I'm really sorry if someone already brought this up, but I haven't seen it anywhere yet.
Just a thought.
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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:49 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tsukiko-chan-00.livejournal.com
Well I thought about that too, but I still have my doubts.
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:52 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] chivy-pandaz.livejournal.com
still it would rock big time XD *imagines Lulu laughing somewhere in the world saying "Take that bitches"*

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] centurycreeper.livejournal.com
I'm of the "convinced Lelouch is dead" camp, so in my opinion, I don't think so xD
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kimchiburger.livejournal.com
I always thought it was to emphasize that he was dying and that he appreciated Suzaku for killing him.
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:52 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gatekeepers-21.livejournal.com
Well, I don't think the Code is always on the hand :/ I was guessing that was just a Charles thing.

I also heard the theory that he got the Code -> RR (Rurushu aka Lelouch phonetically in Japanese) -> R2. But I have my doubts, I was just guessing CC was just talking to herself randomly again like she usually does, and never makes sense.

I don't have my hopes up u_u It ended this way just to eff our heads...
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:54 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] magical-poof.livejournal.com
Also "Lamperouge" or whatever his last name was, though before I read some other comments, I thought it was the double L/R in "Lelouch", too.

I hope Lelouch ended up as RR/R2 ;____;

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 19:52 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] magical-poof.livejournal.com
I just rewatched it after reading this post... His hand looks soaked in blood. Even if it was there, I doubt you could see it under all that red, since they did show us a little bit of his palm during that scene, all I could see was red.
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:03 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] inastr8jacket.livejournal.com
I thought that whole moment was just homolusting.
Just Lelouch caressing Suzaku's face. Didn't think anything else about it.

.... :D'''

Either way, if Lelouch did have a code, I don't think he would tell Suzaku. It would kinda put a downer on Zero Requiem. :\

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:03 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com
It's all /a/ could talk about last night. xD

I like the theory. It's a nice happy end denial theory. But I don't think it's canon, or implied by any means.

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:12 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] lishan1988.livejournal.com
http://imagesocket.com/view/luluisalive1f4.gif

for your viewing pleasure...

*Don't care about the age thing.. the pic is in no way NSFW
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 21:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ladyofjoy.livejournal.com
AWESOME
XD

Very well done, if it was fan-made *-*
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:16 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] spleener.livejournal.com
It's certainly possible. My theory was always that code transfer didn't go through until the new bearer died (which is why CC was 'killed' in that one scene, and thus it's possible that he really *did* Geass Charles back then but it was all according to his keikaku) and thus it would turn out that he got Charles' Code somehow, which would allow for a fake death. When I saw Suzaku!Zero go for Lulu I was like "nooo- oh, wait, they're going to go with that twist" but then CC was alone in that last scene, so that pretty much kills that theory. Perhaps that was one last troll for the fans, that they get us expecting something like that and then go 'OH SNAP NO HAPPY END FOR LULU FOR YOU BITCHES'.
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:29 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_miyuchan_/
I think Lelouch is dead, and Lelouch is my favourite character, but it make so much more sense with everything else, the only sad thing was for me that he died surrounded by people who hated him.
I'm sure only few of them, Nunnally, Suzaku, Kallen, actually felt sad and cried for him.
Also if he was going to survive, the scene with C.C praying and looking sad while Suzaku was running and killing lelouch wouldn't have had any reason to exist, he was going to survive right? She could have been hidden somewhere and definitely not so sad and worried as if she just knew what was going to happen...
But that's my idea...
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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 21:12 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] hzuki.livejournal.com
She could've been sad that Lelouch would soon have to bear eternal life

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:46 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kyandii-holic.livejournal.com
I'm a Lelouch is alive believer, possible or not I like to think about it. I like to think that CC addressed that last line to Lelouch/driver, that he gained immortality and kept his promise.
Still I'll let him slip away if his death is confirmed, his death was so intense but at the same time he realized everything. He will now able to rejoice with his lost beloved ones... ;__;
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 20:50 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kaiserkehl.livejournal.com
I don't know, this is anime, impossible is nothing XD haha, and there's a chance he's alive. I truly believed he was dead-dead until I re-watched the ending, now I just think he's dead, lol.
Date/Time: 2008-09-28 21:28 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] nayami.livejournal.com
While I will not argue the main question, Lelouch touching Suzaku's mask with his bloody hand is twofold. One Lelouch is partially trying to comfort his friend, who he knows will suffer for a long time because of their decision. Two, it's almost like blessing the next Zero and creating a pact with Suzaku. As Suzaku says "I accept this geass." It's symbolic yo.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 02:58 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] eriol33.livejournal.com
really? I think it's more like fanservice, that scene really reminds me when subaru killed seishirou. oh the homolust, oh the scar in the blood.

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Date/Time: 2008-09-28 22:54 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gacktsuki.livejournal.com
How does spreading blood indicate that he had code? Re-watch again. Lelouch was showing Suzaku that his punishment involved killing his friend, live with the mask for all eternity (spreading blood on the mask to enhance the traumatic effect). The way I see it, nothing in the end suggests Lelouch is alive. He's died satisfied and his death is appreciated by the people who loved him. That's just epic. ...But like you, I'm Still PISSED. If you suggest that Lelouch and CC are living happily together ever after. I'll believe you. T_T
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 00:07 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] mixtapehaven.livejournal.com
Well, it might not mean anything. It could just be another shit prank like that ~look Lelouch gave Diethard back in 23.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 00:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] yersi-fanel.livejournal.com
Only people who has a code are able to sen moemries and vision to others, right? what about the truth that Nunnally saw?
I like to think that Lulu is alive T_T
...oh well, there's always fanfiction xD!
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 01:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] aeri-s.livejournal.com
I can't see Lelouch doing that, somehow, because it'd be like shirking his 'punishment'. He's not the sort of person I don't think who would allow Suzaku to be punished but not himself, when he feels like he really deserves it.
Sure, he could be a cold, manipulative bastard at times, but it was all for the good of all.

...On the other hand, maybe he was intending to die. And C.C. was praying that the code would come through.
Hopefully.

Arghhhh...trying to convince myself to stop bawwing and that Lelouch is alive is very hard.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 01:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] asakura-kindo.livejournal.com

SAME HERE... I agree with everything you said...

I Want Lelouch to be alive SO BAD! I DESPERATELY want to belive that he took C.C.'s Code and that the stab didn“t kill him...But... if he had done so...I guess he wouldn't have been himself... He wanted to die so he could pay for all the bad things that he did on is way to getting his revenge, creating a better world for Nanally and liberating Japan...

But I still Think It's SO UNFAIR! everybody hated him in the end! and C.C. ended up all alone again! Both of them deserved Better!

I want Lelouch to be alive ;___; (The same goes for Rolo but it's to late for that)

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Date/Time: 2008-09-29 01:41 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] angel-terra.livejournal.com
I like to think that Lelouch is alive as well.
Specially for the whole C.C.'s "Right, Lelouch?" and (unless my subs were wrongly translated) for when Suzaku said "The geass... I did receive it"

Because C.C. doesn't deserve to be all alone D:
And because I love the pairing.
And because it's Sunrise.
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 00:00 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] chickee1.livejournal.com
They were using geass as a metaphor for a wish. Asking someone else to do what they can't. Lelouch cannot create peace like he wanted so he's asking Suzaku to carry on.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 06:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] shinigami39.livejournal.com
I thought about that too ^^;; And as I love SuzaLulu and LuluCC, I shall firmly believe that Lelouch lives, somehow.

DENIAL MODEZ.

Date/Time: 2008-09-29 14:19 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] orenjuhimechan.livejournal.com
ahaha even though it makes sense that lulu died
since when has sunrise made sense DD:
at least thats what im hoping asdasdas
NO BODY NO DEATH
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 14:49 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tomoyohime8.livejournal.com
part of me hates that he's dead because he was someone who had so little happiness in life - and in the end, he had the world hate him so that he could create the gentle world he dreamed of.

clues pointing towards this: no grave shown. at all. that would have been a great clincher if lulu really was dead.

the other half of me liked the ending just the way it was. despite everything, lelouch's face in the end was the most peaceful i'd ever seen on him. like, 'finally, i can remove the mask.'


eitherway, it was beautiful.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 23:58 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] chickee1.livejournal.com

Either Lelouch didn't know he was going to get the code therefore justifying C.c.'s praying OR C.c. was praying that their mission would be successful (actually create peace). Her not being able to watch Lelouch die got to me though, he was what she made him, despite what he said. She should have been there to support him.

And, if Lulu is still alive, he wouldn't turn his back on the people who's lives he changed, he would be Zero, not Suzaku. He wouldn't turn his back on eveyone to deal with the mess he made, he's got too much of a conscience.

For this point alone I believe he is dead, as much as I want to believe he is alive.

So a 40/60 from me...

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