Fake or Realy .. ??

[japanfans.livejournal.com]

Hi guys ...

can anyone tell me if this image a realy i mean from gode geass tv anime
or a fake image someone made it .. ??



yes it`s Suzaku kissing Lelouch .. !!!
soo please tell me .. ??

Comments

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

kay lol, that settles it. i am done replying to you, ROFL
thanks for the good lol buddy, you really made my day today

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

ROFL, did i say that? Learn to READ. Shirlulu and Kalulu are the only options for Lelouch, staff made it clear. Nunally is his dear sister and Suzaku is his dear friend, ah, you probably missed the point where Suzaku ended the show in love with Euphie right? Sure.
I am the one needing help, YEP.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Staff, several scans, poems, interviews, nothing was mentioned about SuzaLulu, other than being true friends in the end, SORRY. You can go and cry in the yaoi-corner now, but hey, you got doujins to look, so LIGHT UP. :D

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

lol, try trolling better, try moar.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

and btw, do not call me dear, who gave you that right, GOD.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

i do not want fake-politeness for someone that replied to my post out of the blue {you initiated all this wank, if you were a bit more polite, and i mean, real polite from the beginning it would not end like this} with "O_o" without a reason, do not make me lol, honest.

[yinake.livejournal.com]

I promised I'd stay out of this, but ahhh, when Suzaku is involved...

Not saying that he did not love Euphemia, because he did, but it was a very... clumsy kind of teenage love, and he always saw himself as inferior to her. He always knew that he was her knight, not her prince, and while he did love her, he never really got to know her that well. He spends most of R2 justifying his own actions to himself by using her memory. The point is that they had a... somewhat shallow relationship and Suzaku clung to an idealized memory of her.

But I can't articulate my point nearly as well as libekory did in this essay: http://libekory.livejournal.com/52754.html#cutid1, which pretty much explains the whole Suzaku/Euphemia relationship from beginning to end in a way that is, to me, very reasonable.

And for the record, I ship Suzaku/Euphemia. I also ship Suzaku/a lot of other people. My point is that I don't believe that the (canon) couple SuzaEuphy means that Suzaku doesn't or never will love anyone else ever, or that their love and relationship ever was perfect.

SuzaEuphy is still cute, though, yes <3 Even if a lot darker than a lot of people realize.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

It is fiction, certain cliche devices. Suzaku was too hung up in Euphie, even in R2, because she was the person that accepted him the way he was, and he did love her for that.
Same with Kallen, rather obvious from her poem, that she will always love Lelouch, cause he was the core of her new existence. Same with Shirley, her love for Lulu was too deep, that could be the same, in different lifetimes.
Fiction = certain devices

[yinake.livejournal.com]

....did you even read the essay? O_O

And IMO, it was Lelouch rather than Euphemia who always accepted him the way he was, actually (which is not to say it was necessarily romantic between those two, but Lelouch obviously always understood him best, even well enough to give him the fate he had always craved for in ZR). Euphemia and Suzaku could have been a great couple, but they were never given the time to develop a really deep relationship, and I believe that a lot of what you call him being hung up on Euphy was really just self-serving justice until he finally managed to say goodbye to her in the World of C. I RP Suzaku like nobody's business, and love him immensely while not being blind to his (numerous) faults, and my firm belief is that SuzaEuphy, while a lovely and very cute thing, is not the be-all-and-end-all for him. Their relationship was never as pure as most of fandom believes to begin with.

I hope you consider this. If you're going to maintain that Suzaku is going to remain static forever and never consider anyone else even though I believe that he got over her in the World of C, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, it doesn't defame any ship to be open to alternatives and my approach to shipping is not 'one true love forEVVA', but I suppose that is one thing we inherently are not on the same page about.

/sexy Suzaku ass just because

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Except that Suzaku and Lelouch were never into the romantic field, i was referring to romance strictly.

And btw, does it entertain you, if your LJ friends, initiate rude replies and opinions that go against the stuff statements, so they can make Kalulu-aggressive fans, once again to prove the theory, even if we did not start anything?

[yinake.livejournal.com]

Fine, then we can disregard the "Lelouch knew Suzaku better than Euphy" argument -- the point of this whole 'debate' was that Suzaku loving Euphemia meant that he would or could never see anyone else in a romantic light and not SuzaLulu, which is a related, but ultimately different matter. Feel free to agree to disagree, but I'm not going to let you derail the argument. I've said what I wanted to say, and I believe I raise several valied points that are perhaps worth considering. My work here is done.

His initial reply was rude? It's just his opinion that it was a glitch, which is an opinion I know quite a few people share; you're free to think it's bullcrap, and have your reasons to think so, but surely it isn't inappropriate to voice such a doubt? And no, I did not encourage him to do it, and he did not do it with the intention of causing a stink. I just knew what would follow when he told me what he had done, and said, "LOL, you did what?"

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Alright.

Ah, excuse me if someone jumps on me because i said tongue kiss, that is rather obvious, with a reply consisted of "O_o" = you are crazy pretty much, what you see is a GLITCH, please. Sure, a glitch that was fixed into more tongue on the blue-ray version, that had all the crappy artwork redone. So excuse me, that is not an opinion, staff made it clear, twice.

[yinake.livejournal.com]

But a lot of people have not seen this blue-ray version, and just looking at the .gif above, you have to admit that there's room for interpretation.

Perhaps if you could upload a .gif of the blue-ray version, or point to the right direction to look it up, that would help settle things.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Lol, i am sorry but i am loling right now. Interpretation for what? That is a glitch? I mean, lol, honest people, there is tongue there, period. What kind of bull-glitch are people sprouting?
You know, you would think that staff, would pay attention to a kiss scene, of all scenes {since there is zoom} but no, people need more proof than the tongue itself there. Please, honest.
If certain people want to drive Kalulu fans to be all "wtf" so they can point out to them and say "look, look aggressive" then kudos. You could come up, with moar crazy theories, that discard themselves, since show presents exactly the opposite.

[yinake.livejournal.com]

If you want to see it that way, feel free. <3

I would still like to see that blue-ray version.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

I think it is rather obvious, that majority of LJ works like this. People are sprouting shit, even Kalulu ones, but the only getting blamed are the latter. Crazy i no rite?

And i feel like a perfect idiot, like a total idiot trying to prove that this is not an elephant-kiss, but w/e:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAN2qnSE5g&feature=channel_page

[yinake.livejournal.com]

I was seriously expecting something more than this after you kept talking about the blu-ray version like that, but... umm. This looks just as badly-animated as the normal version.

Needless to say, NOT CONVINCED. And entirely not interested in discussing this any further, and not going to check the thread again. Case closed.

LMAO. XD

God, I feel relieved now! For a second there, I almost suspected you may have been right after all. XD

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

you know what, yeah it is a glitch. Actually, the directors intended to "trick" Kalulu fans, with all the material supporting that this kiss was mutual and passionate and blah blah. The tongue being there is nothing, yep, case closed.

And in all honestly, i did think that you actually might have been a kind and nice person, but after this dickery-smartassery reply, no, thank you. Especially after you made fun of my friend anaakin. Rest assured, we Kalulu are dick yes, not that the rest of you are any better though.

p.s yes, Suzalulu is SO canon, even though the staff never said anything about it, but well, it is all a glitch in this series, and only enlightened people get things, woah.

[destructo-bot.livejournal.com]

Now hold on a minute. You're being... well, wrong. On many different points.

One, I watched the clip too. How on earth could you tell if there was tongue or not? It's animation. And not that detailed animation, either (lol sunrise). Sure, it could have been a tongue kiss. And Rolo could have been screwing Lelouch on the side using his Geass (...*squees at the thought*). But can you prove it? Even going frame by frame, there is no way to prove that it's a tongue kiss, no one frame that goes, "Look, look right there, there's Lelouch/Kallen/whoever's tongue." (Or if there is, my aging eyes have missed it?) So maybe it was a tongue kiss. But you also have to consider the possibility that you are reading too much into it, and instead take it at face value.

Speaking as someone who can appreciate all pairings with all characters, I can see and understand the arguments for Lulu/Kallen. However, you cannot, or perhaps *should* not, use this kiss scene as proof for the end-all-be-all of their canon love.

Now, next point. You outright insulted yinake and had no reason to do so. She never made fun of your friend; in fact, the only interaction I can recall that those two had was when she was surprised when anaakin responded to one of her lj posts. You're taking a molehill and calling it a mountain, and not just a mountain, but a dick and a smartass and a 'go burn in hell for saying my OTP isn't tongue-kiss canon'. I'm trying really hard not to completely take sides here, but that's just being mean. Yes, her reply was a little snarky, but the one right before it (that you posted) had its fair share of snark as well. Snark is not dickery.

I'm not saying other people in this same argument haven't been unreasonable as well (overusing the word 'dear' gets you nowhere and light novels aren't actually canon! *winces*), but you have to own up to the fact that you've taken a few things here too far.

P.S. Suzalulu is canon, just not in a romantic sense. Many shounen anime have this element as well. The problems arise when people (i.e. crazy fans) try to prove that it is indeed a ~*romantic*~ love. ^_^;

dear god, like DEAR GOD

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Now hold on a minute, are you kidding me? Honest, are you? Look, i am really having a hard time here, to see your "points" cause your points are SO out of planet {in relevance to what i "said"}, but whatever:

1 - There is TONGUE, what is this thing in Lelouch's mouth? A pink butterfly? GOD, when did i say that this kiss makes them canon? WHEN? I dare you to point out to me, when i said that. = you assuming things to make me seem like a BAD!!11 Kalulu fan, that "zomg kiss =canon" <====the kiss is the tip of the iceberg, there are other tons of evidences, that suggest that Kalulu is the closest to canon, but not crystal-canon. Never said that.

2 - Ahhhh, yinake was being ironic, totally. For a person, that the other day on another convo we had, admitted that "Kalulu is the closest to canon and i am willing to give it a chance give me fanfics" to go to "oh my god, you almost had me there, i though you were right //plain ironic" then excuse me, but i am not gonna play the polite-card, when she did not.
And ahhhhx2, i was not being to yinake "GTFP" hsfkjdshkfds, LOL, did you even read my posts, cause all i see is you assuming a MILLION of things, that actually do insult me, but i do not care, since i do not know you and do not really want to/plan to. I am not a person that is gonna be kawai-fake-polite to someone i do not know at all, if i do not receive the same courtesy.

So, next time, you want to jump in a post, assuming things and "blaming" the other one, according to your assuming-things, then excuse me, do it better, honest.

p.s what kind of canon are you talking about then if it not romantic love? Euphie/Suzu were canon, not Lelouch/Suzu. Lelouch and Suzaku were just best friends, staff stated that as well. But anyway, seem like staff's words are just idk, nothing nowadays.