romance in geass

[rosangela.livejournal.com]

Do you think that Lelouch loved someone romantically in the end?There have been hints with C.C., Shirley and Kallen.Personally i think that the staff was going with C.C. and Lelouch in the first season and in the second they took the route for Lelouch and Kallen.Shirley was in school and it was hard in the first place.
What is your opinion?

Comments

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

Hmm, well this topic is kind of a hornet's nest because some people take shipping far, far too seriously. But I enjoy a reasonable debate of the subject.
C.C., Shirley, and Kallen were all important to Lelouch, for sure; I don't think anybody can reasonably argue that. The issue is whether or not his feelings were romantic or platonic. I think in his heart he had some romantic feelings for all three, but felt very confused about his own feelings and had a lot of bigger things to worry about. I can find evidence of all three pairings in Lelouch's words, expressions, thoughts, and actions as seen in the show itself.
One could also make the case that each of Lelouch's personas went with one romantic interest: the normal school student Lelouch Lamperouge with Shirley, the rebel terrorist leader Zero with Kallen, and the fallen prince with the power of the King (and later the Emperor) with C.C.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

well this topic is kind of a hornet's nest because some people take shipping far, far too seriously

dude, shipping IS srs, what you talking about.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

XD I know rite what was I thinking
Seriously though, when I was pretty new here, somebody brought up the subject of romantic relationships and I mentioned some stuff I'd read on TV tropes (which at the time didn't cite specific sources beyond "post-series materials"; now I know it's in the Complete Guidebook and also an interview with C.C.'s seiyuu) about how the creators Jossed Lelouch/CC and AFAIK kind of said Lelouch/Kallen was the official pairing. Or something. Then a big argument broke out because I had no idea what exactly those post-series materials/interviews were.
Personally I don't care if that's what the writers were intending; what's important is what's actually there in canon. Then again I've become very fond of the idea of Death of the Author thanks to George Lucas and Upton Sinclair making me face-palm.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

Oh, halcyon geass days. Yeah, most common romance wars were C.CxL vs Kalulu fans. The one argument would be like 'ohhh, look we got lines in the poem, we got aishiteru in context, we got staff backing up, suck ittt you suckers' and the other would be 'dude, we get naked covers. pizza but and lelouch emperor all sexy. nuff said.'

yeah, kind of like that, haha.
i am not sure about tv tropes and stuff and i actually have forgotten a few stuff over time, but there were a few debates over translations and stuff, that supposedly hinted towards a couple and the other.

[snoozy.livejournal.com]

but lol, no srsly. i kind of have to agree there, geass-romance really falls into the total-perspective-view. you can find hints for every shipping, depending on the goggles you wearing.
i'd probably just say, that kalulu has a tiny+ compared to others, due to the poems released with geass best and the lines that sunrise had in the site a bit after the finale. they did push a bit kallen-lulu there, but well, what do i know? i am biased and by the time someone is biased, objectivity stops inevitably. |D

tl;dr geass trolled in romance too. 8DD

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

Oh hey, thanks, now I have sources for the Kalulu-is-official position too. Like I said, I personally think it is and should be up to the viewer. Simply looking at the show itself, I don't think Kalulu is necessarily more or less canon than LuluCC and LuluShirley. It all depends on what you like and how you interpret the words/looks/thoughts/actions/etc in the show. (Personally I like LuluCC and LuluShirley's dynamic most, but I won't refuse good Kalulu fic/art/doujin when I come accross it. ^^)

[amanuensis1.livejournal.com]

One could also make the case that each of Lelouch's personas went with one romantic interest

That's a lovely argument. I like it.

(Perhaps, also, the "echo of the non-conflicted Prince he might have been" persona fits with Euphemia? It might have been only sibship between them, but it seemed a different sibling relationship than he had with Nunnally.)

I also agree with you that a fan is likely to argue for the 'ship that appeals to him/her most. I tend to side with the "he had way too many other things to worry about" faction, even though I have my own preferences.

[monoyuki.livejournal.com]

One could also make the case that each of Lelouch's personas went with one romantic interest: the normal school student Lelouch Lamperouge with Shirley, the rebel terrorist leader Zero with Kallen, and the fallen prince with the power of the King (and later the Emperor) with C.C.

Very well put! :D I completely agree.

[kiraya.livejournal.com]

+1

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

+1 ;)

[snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com]

Or, taking it a little further - Emperor with CC, and Prince with Euphy!

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

If we're talking childhood-era Prince then I suppose, yes. I don't see Lelouch and Euphemia ever having a romantic or sexual relationship, even though I know he had a little crush on her or something when they were little; it's very common for young children to have no concept of love outside of family and thus think nothing of marrying family members "because you marry somebody you love, right?"

[snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com]

Childhood-era prince works for me