Episode 7 Reactions

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

This episode was really more about the angst and drama than advances in plot, so this is less of a cohesive discussion and more a collection of observations.



01: Nunnally... is a sweet girl. A really sweet, earnest girl who's full of sparkles and bubbles and flower petals. Which makes her a really terrible politician. It's hard to imagine what she could have done that would have been worse than announcing the reestablishment of the SAR. It's my pet theory that without Zero offering to work with her, Nunnally would have probably been ousted as governor very soon.

02: And I wish the producers would give her more of a personality, because currently, she's just the Euphinator Euphemia V.2.0. (Which means she is destined to have a love affair with Suzaku. >_>)

03: With Kaguya rejoining the Black Knights, Lelouch's harem now has an official name. -__- It's sort of sweet. In a very awkward kind of way.

04: And I think that with this episode, we probably don't need to worry about Lelouch throwing Rolo away, because the boy can obviously look out for himself. I like how he's playing mind games with Lulu now, partly as payback, partly to drive Lulu up a wall and convince him to forget about being Zero. I fear for Nunnally if Rolo ever meets her.

05: Lelouch's confrontation with the Refrain thugs filled me, simultaneously, with great horror and amusement. He was obviously losing it really fast, but that evil, batshit crazy laugh? That will never not be crack. XD

06: C.C. talks to dead people (specifically Marianne) again. D: I demand backstory and further explanations, damnit! (Maybe she and V.V. and others like them are some sort of Death Gods who came from Jupiter seeking a way to break their curse of eternal youth and immortality. /crack)

07: The entire scene with Lelouch and Kallen was just ouch. It's almost heartbreaking to see Lelouch reduced to such a state that he'd consider drugs and sex as ways of escaping. But. You can't deny that he was just asking to be kicked in the face with his "That's something women can do, right?" line. Lulu you twit. Who do you think you're talking to? She's arguably the best pilot in your entire resistance. Thus, Kallen: 2, Lelouch: 0.

08: I find it extremely amusing that Sunrise chose to follow the Kallen scene with a Rolo scene. It's like they had to balance it out to reach their weekly ghey quota. XD Because if Rolo's speech wasn't a declaration of love, then all language has lost its meaning.

09: I love the student council. With all my heart. That scene was just beautiful. :'D (I still think that one of the best things about Code Geass is that even though Lelouch is a heartless, manipulative bastard who doesn't give a flip about honor, he still has a heart and people he loves. That doesn't excuse him of his blatant selfishness, cruelty, or disregard for life, but that shows that he's still human. Which is more realistic and interesting than someone who doesn't care about anything or anyone else in the world other than himself.)

10: It's good that Lelouch has realized that he can't be Zero for Nunnally alone anymore. The point is that he no longer has the right to stop. He hasn't had that right since he shot his half-brother in the face at point-blank range. He's spilled too much blood and given too many people hope for him to turn back now. The decision is completely out of his hands. He has to continue his rebellion, even if it goes against Nunnally's wishes. He has to do it for Kallen, for the Black Knights, and for every Japanese person who's died clutching a picture of Zero.

11: It's funny that Lelouch with a map and a phone > three knights of the round and an entire fleet of the Britannian navy. You'd think they would have realized beforehand that there was a giant tank of methane hydrate in the general vicinity of their missiles. >_> Hello, deus ex machina.

12: I love how C.C. starts to turn to smile at Kaguya before realizing what she's doing and looks away. XD

13: Episode 8 seems to be more plot-focused. I'm really curious about how Villetta and Rolo are going interact with Lelouch. Maybe Lelouch will win her over with the promise of letting her see Ougi. 8D And I'm assuming that Lelouch is addressing Nunnally in his voice over?

Comments

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

1) The thing is, as it stands right now, Nunnally and Suzaku come as a set. What Nunnally lacks in diplomatic finesse Suzaku will make up for in military force. Not only is she Nunnally (an object of his affection since they were little), as you said, she does smack so much of Euphie v2.0. And I wonder how much he conflates the two people. As a result of his dedication to both, I don't think he can afford to let Nunnally fail. Though he didn't propose it, the SAR is his darling as much as it was Euphie's or Nunnally's.

6) Seriously, right? 32 episodes into Code Geass, and we know as little about geass as we did at the beginning. *sigh*

8) Although Lelouch is still the most fabulous character on the show by far, Rolo is the most gay. Just come out already, sheesh, and consummate your mindfucky, angsty, sibcon, shota buttsex. =P

9) Well, I wouldn't lay those charges so quickly upon Lelouch. But in any case, I think he has learned more about honor in this episode. And he is incredibly selfish and incredibly not at the same time. He may seek to further his own ends, but his own ends have generally sought to further others'. He's more or less lived his life for other people. This may be as validation for his existence after Daddy denounced his worth when he was 9, but still. Though he is a practical realist, Lelouch has always cared about the individual, and I do believe that he feels every loss and sacrifice that he has them make.

11) Deus ex machina? In my Geass? Perish the thought! (Still not nearly as bad as Lelouch's worst joke ever.)

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

I personally think he'd had a few hits before Kallen found him. When Kallen first calls out to him, did you see his eyes? They were crazy people eyes. o_O

And if Rolo ever laid a hand on Nunnally, Lelouch would undoubtedly turn the entire order against him. You don't fuck with the sister.

[adventine.livejournal.com]

Actual science? In my crack anime? *swoons*

But still, it's too CONVENIENT. My disbelief is mostly geared towards how Lulu got out of this particular scrape by lucking out rather than using Art of War-esque tactics. But it's not like I was expecting more from Sunrise. XD

The science lesson was really informative though. I'll remember it next time I try to fire torpedos on the ocean floor of Japan. :D

[izelmecatl.livejournal.com]

lol My image of him was in the brink of shattering...but then again his only human.

and...Oh My God! i just noticed my lack of grammar in my first comment right now!! lol sorry about that!

[darth-teca.livejournal.com]

01: I'm actually kind of thankful that more of Nunally's personality is coming out slowly. After episode 6, I was sure that we were going to have to deal with Lulu being angsty about Suzaku "stealing Nunally" away from him, but I am beginning to enjoy Nunnaly's straightforwardness. She says right up front that this is for Lulu and I think (hope) that many possible cliche problems will be avoided simply because Nunally is not afraid to speak up.

02: Oh sweet Jesus and everything that is holy NO. Please, please don't ever let that idea even cross the writers' minds. Although I do think she is quickly going to be the focal turning point for both Lulu and Suzaku, much as Euphie was last season. I'm waiting for the Emperor to kill her and watch Suzaku try to wrap his mind around THAT one.

03: I agree kind of an odd way, although I thought it was a bit heavy handed with the symbolism, as if the writers were saying, "YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE THREE AND HOW THEY DIFFERENTLY RELATE TO LULU." On with a 2x4. -.-* Regardless, since I'm a sucker for symbolism, Kaguya is shaping up to be the heart of the group, C.C. has always been the brain in a way, and Kallen is the muscle. Although as you pointed out, I am SO happy Kallen is shaping up to be the one to pull Lulu's head out of his ass on occasion. It desperately needs to be done and she has no problem hitting him as many times as needed. I'm really curious to see how their relationship proceeds, although I personally don't see anything about it romantic at this moment in time.

11. Seriously, what kind of freaking map did he HAVE? I'm pretty sure shit like that would not be on a normal ocean-depth map. I also want to know how he found out about it considering he trashed his phone. ¬.¬ Ah, the magic of Lulu.

[mikoto-chan13.livejournal.com]

If I can join your conversation ^^, I rather think that he actually thought about the *past* and how happy he had felt back then without realizing it. He talks about "stained memories" and Rollo doesn't appear in the glass, while Nunally does (she is the main focus]. Suzaku is there, too, though, so perhaps there's a still a little hope of future reconciliation XD (however unlikely it seems...)

[tomoyohime8.livejournal.com]

she's introduced in spoilers... though i'm not sure where i read them. i think they're in the crunchyroll group for r2.

[tomoyohime8.livejournal.com]

i wouldn't be surprised if he had an entire drawer full of celphones. O_o

[pinaworks.livejournal.com]

this is what it should have happened, lol.

[misteline.livejournal.com]

XDDDD OMG YES.

[rayquaza.livejournal.com]

LOLOLOL TOPPED

[tyg.livejournal.com]

re 06: Wasn't she communicating with V.V. at the end of R1? This leads me to believe that Marianne might be one of the Geass-dispensing people; plus we never really see her forehead. xD Maybe she's got the Geass symbol like C.C. does.

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

XDDD Ahahaha!

Karen most definitely tops.

[arence-heart.livejournal.com]

Lelouch deserved a kick to the balls for that "that's something women can do, right?" line. I totally expected that, seriously. Slapping is for girls, and Lelouch is more girly than Kallen, come on!

On Suzaku, he really does know about Zero=Lulu, I'm sure, he's not in denial anymore, really. *prays*

[arence-heart.livejournal.com]

I just got an idea. Maybe, Lelouch located the OotBK ship there because he knew the gas was there, and could be used in a time of need? ...But he didn't tell anyone because.... eh... Ok, that's the end of my crazy crack idea

[aoi-rein.livejournal.com]

Wow! Kallen so aggresive! (^ 0 ^) Poor Lulu, I bet he regret to say that.

[aoi-rein.livejournal.com]

I wonder that too. The preview talk is towards Nunnally rite?
And here my short impression about this episode.
http://aoi-rein.livejournal.com/5939.html

[animenutcase.livejournal.com]

She is definitely the "man" in that relationship. I love that old cliche where the bottom is crying/shaking after the sex and the top is sleeping/smoking.

[cheezmonke.livejournal.com]

It's funny that Lelouch with a map and a phone > three knights of the round and an entire fleet of the Britannian navy.

I think this needs to be iconed somehow. My favorite part was the BUBBLES ♥

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

Like so?

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XD

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

Apparently she's Nunnally tutor/governess and is racist and doesn't like Nunnally because Nunnally isn't racist. (Which shocks me. Because, no wai, someone who doesn't like Nunnally?!1! :O)

Lulu had it coming. -__-

More than science, by bubbles. I can't think of a more ignominious way to go down: death by a glorified bubble bath. >_>

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

Ah, I crossed it out because it was more of a side comment, not because I don't think it's true. ^^

Word. I think Lulu cries himself to sleep sometimes over how much manlier Kallen is. XD

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

1) I see your point about Suzaku supporting Nunnally. I didn't really think about that. It's just that it was such a bad political move that if Zero hadn't agreed to participate, I wonder if the Britannian government might have forbidden her from continuing.

9) And he is incredibly selfish and incredibly not at the same time. He may seek to further his own ends, but his own ends have generally sought to further others'. He's more or less lived his life for other people.

I agree with all of that, actually. It's just that there's such a huge disparity between how he treats the people he cares about and how he treats the random soldiers he meets. It shows that he doesn't believe other people's lives are worth as much as the lives of those close to him. The fact that he's doing all of this for others may not be so much an indication of his selflessness, but a testimony to how closely his dreams are connected to his family and his past.

(... I wonder what the fact that he's my favorite character because of all this says about me? o_O)

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

1. deal with Lulu being angsty about Suzaku "stealing Nunally" away from him

I'm glad Lulu isn't a drama queen like that, because it would have gotten really annoying, really fast. This is why I love practical characters. :D

Nunnally speaking her mind makes me very happy. She may not have a personality, but at least she has a backbone.

3. Kaguya is shaping up to be the heart of the group, C.C. has always been the brain in a way, and Kallen is the muscle

Ahaha, interaction between the three of them would be so much crack. XD But where, I wonder, would Shirley fit?

11. Lulu godmods everything and everyone. Even fabric of reality. >_>

[ipsius.livejournal.com]

*chortlesnortgiggles*

It's not possible for Lulu to out-seme anyone. Not even his fake kid brother, much less Kallen. >_>