Marianne's murder

[soba-noodlez.livejournal.com]

Does anyone have any ideas about who killed Marianne? And why? I think it might have been V.V., but what would be his motive for killing her? What would be anyone's motive for killing her? Why not kill one of the other wives? Why was she the one that was murdered? No one would gain anything. I mean, even if it was a mistake that she was killed and the true objective was to kill Lelouch and Nunally. Lelouch and Nunally had absolutely no shot at the throne, so there would be no point in taking them out. The only was she was important (as far as I know) was that Cornelia looked up to her and she was Lelouch's and Nunally's mother. But then again, she must have been important enough for Jeremiah to be assigned to protect her.

Any ideas?

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[tigtogtag.livejournal.com]

I still have my doubts about which side Jeremiah is on. And while my mind would like to wrap everything up in a neat little package and say he was a culprit, I don't think so.

Whoever killed Marianne, I have a feeling that they are far from the people Lelouch has been suspecting. I mean, think of it, he's based an entire revolution on this one event in his life, and yet he doesn't definitively know who did it. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be some Japanese military entity, rather than Charles' goonies.

[hatsumomo.livejournal.com]

Suzaku's dad obvs. Him and Marianne were getting it on and she was going to tell Charles that Lelouch and Nunnally are actually his children.

The truth will come out in the last episode after Suzaku and Nunnally have consumnated their marriage. Then rocks fall and everyone dies.

[inksmears]

I kinda got this hunch that Jeremiah is lying and that it's a false alliance he's creating with Lelouch. I dunno, it just seemed... really random that he was suddenly loyal to Lelouch after everything that's happened. He used Lelouch's weakness, his mother, to gain his trust.

I mean... He was seen with V.V. where the Emperor is, who knows how Lelouch works. I get the feeling he told Jaramiah how to act and what to do in order to earn Lelouch's trust. He's their spy, working inside the rebellion forces for the Emperor.

That's my theory, anyway. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. As for Marianne, from the spoiler pictures I saw, we'll be learning about her back story in the not so distant future which may answer all those questions.

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

I was always under the idea that Marianne pulled a Xanatos Gambit (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit) (minus the villain of course) where she purposely died in order to trigger the events for Lelouch to make a move to over throw her husband.

--Then again this is most likely is because I read too much xxxHOLiC and Tsubasa.

Marianne was important due to just being a wife of the Emperor period, she's a royal family member. However she knew V.V. (obviously given what his and Charles's relation is) and possibly she knew C.C. as well. Most likely her death was either related to Geass or the Sword of Ashaka.

[tanzentravis.livejournal.com]

I was just wondering, for those of us thinking that Jeremiah is playing to Lelouch's feelings - who's to say that Jeremiah hasn't been playing V.V. and Charles this whole time? It could be perfectly possible that Jeremiah's always resented Charles for not investigating Marianne's death/for being the cause of it/whatever reason you can think of, and that once he came to realize that Lelouch is trying to avenge Marianne he agreed to join the Knights.

Though, that said, I doubt my own theory and tend to think that Jeremiah's just playing Lelouch. At least that's what I like to think because otherwise it seems like things would be horribly unbalanced with so much in Lelouch's favour, no matter how many friends and family he's lost.

[fujiappletan.livejournal.com]

I looove the theory that Marianne staged her death herself. And that she also had whatever ties to the Geass (like how V.V. is related to Charles, maybe C.C. is related in some way to Marianne?) So I stick to that. It just seems... crazy and abitlikeSunrisekjdfdf.

[luinthoron.livejournal.com]

Jeremiah is not lying about Marianne, since he said the same to Villetta in one of the first season DVD specials, before the Orange incident.

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

It wouldn't be too surprising if C.C. was related to Mariaane thanks to V.V. and Charles, though from what the new pictures of Newtype show, I'd guess it'd have to be some very very far ancestor of sorts.

I could see Marianne doing it. She loves her children more than anything, and if she was aware of the plot that V.V. and Charles have, if it hurts her children? I could see her doing something drastic like setting up her own death. She did dismiss the security for that day.

[tanzentravis.livejournal.com]

Which special, out of curiousity?

[suikojowy.livejournal.com]

Thinking the exact same thing, i'd like the alliance to be genuine but it just seems too out of the blue.

[soba-noodlez.livejournal.com]

*nods* I had the same feeling. Right when he said it, I was expecting Jeremiah to injure Lelouch when he got close enough.

[inksmears]

I have trouble counting the various "specials" of Code Geass as actual canon evidence. Since there are so many.

But which one is it?

[lb-x.livejournal.com]

I also like the idea Marianne staged her own death. Either she planned the whole thing, or she knew about the cult and that they were going to kill her. Being as CC has been watching Lelouch since at least the age of 9, and that CC keeps up a correspondence with Marianne, I would suspect she has a connection to the cult. If VV replaced CC as leader around the same time, that could all tie in? CC took Marianne's side, VV took Charles'?

The fun of speculations~

[inksmears]

Then again this is most likely is because I read too much xxxHOLiC and Tsubasa.

If anyone in Code Geass ends up being a clone of some kind, I'm going to choke a bitch.

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

Hahahahaha XDD

That's it! Anya is a clone of Marianne! :O

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

If VV replaced CC as leader around the same time, that could all tie in? CC took Marianne's side, VV took Charles'?

That's an interesting idea. Marianne was killed and then C.C. was overthrown by V.V., making him the leader. It also brings in the question if you need to have a powerful contractor (ie Charles, Lelouch maybe Marianne) to be the leader of the Cult. Then again it might just be who has the most knowledge or support.

[inksmears]

Well, the Code Geass characters ARE designed by CLAMP, after all....

XD I would hate so much if that were true. Seriously.

[mossygirl.livejournal.com]

It's in picture drama 5 (episode 4.33).

[soba-noodlez.livejournal.com]

So...Charles is an alien? And his kids are half aliens? lol, oh sunrise, I love you. :DDD

[hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com]

Your avatar makes me laugh so much :'3

I guess it would depend on if the Code Geass team allowed CLAMP to get in on the story. Though I think Anya is either a daughter or sister or some other kind of relative.

We can go over and punch CLAMP in the face if it's true :'3

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

Incest! *thumbs up*

[darth-teca.livejournal.com]

My little theory is that Marianne was killed to make Lelouch into who he is today, but who ever knows with Sunrise especially when they decide to rewrite the plot and extend it at the last minute.

I also think Anya is involved with Marianne's death, because like the above people have said, if Anya is a clone of Marianne, I might just have to kill myself.

[uwaaaah.livejournal.com]

Sunrise will give CLAMP permission to assimilate Code Geass into their gigantic crossover. And then people will gain Geass by eating eyeballs and Suzaku will turn out to be the son of a future Syaoran and Sakura.

THE END. 8D

[inulovinkit.livejournal.com]

Anyone ever get the thought that C.C. might have been directly involved?

I have this pet theory that C.C and Marianne were like, BFFs, and C.C. got all angsty later on because she 'failed to protect' or Hell, may have accidentally caused it, and that is why she's so set on protecting Lelouch, to 'keep Marianne's dream alive?'

...Well, this was all inspired by a great C.C.xMarianne fic I read a while back, but I still think Marianne and C.C. had a bigger relationship besides post-death chats and perhaps Geass giver to Geass user type thing.

Hell, with the direction this show is taking, they could have been fraternal twin sisters...

[inksmears]

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