Turn 14, Lulu, VV and everyone else

[recodes.livejournal.com]

I know it's only been an hour after the episode finished, but if I don't write this down now, I'd probably forget later ~_~ So... my thoughts about this turn...

1. I have to give Lulu lots of credits for managing to appear calm after Shirley's death, unlike the mess Suzaku seemed to put himself in after Euphie died.
   
   
2. When did Lulu actually have the set installed in front of the entrance? Even I thought he was still in Ashford O_o
   
   
3. Is Suzaku completely evil, or is he completely desperate to go against Lulu? I love him and all, but for him to persuade Kallen this way... Feeding Kallen the bullshit that Lulu killed Shirley is one thing, but to drug her with refrain is another... WTF Suzaku?!!!
   
   
4. I think we were wrong when we thought VV expected Jeremiah to go against him. Apparently, he was shocked to find Lelouch at the other end of the line when the call connected. And if his "Jeremiah, even you too...!!" means anything, then he really didn't expect this.
   
   
5. Took VV a while to notice the one in Vincent was Rolo :P
   
   
6. Charles' "My son Lelouch! The time has come!' comment now convinced me that the stage for the finale had been planned all along... Ugh.
   
   
7. The little kids with Geass ability that we saw in the scans before :D They called Rolo 'Rolo-oniichan'~ Now I really don't want Rolo to die, though Lulu was ready to detonate Vincent in order to trap/kill VV.
   
   
8. LOL at Toudou and Chiba in the bedroom ~__~
   
   
9. CC's apology to the cult members before destroying them, saying they were all in the mess now because of her 'sin'. Needs Turn 15 now!
   
   
10. VV, with his hair in a mess, looks so much like Clovis :D
    
    
11. EDIT: Bartley x Clovis should be made canon O_o

I have a question...

So, since Lelouch has discarded his Zero mask, is his identity somehow out in the open now? I was sure there were other members present during the attack against the cult. Or was I reading into it too much? Hmm... I'd love for this to happen soon.

And for everything else I forgot to mention, let the discussion rolllll~

Comments

[jusrecht.livejournal.com]

I don't think the way he treats Nunnally or behaves in ep 8 is a facade at all. It's just something that he does. It's him who wants to protect Japan and Nunnally, even if behind it all, the real reason is redemption for his own sins. The thing about Lelouch is he accepts that he is evil. Suzaku doesn't have this quality, mainly I think because he's used to think of himself as virtuous, or at least trying to be virtuous. To put it in a worse way, he can't afford to be evil again after what he did to his father.

But seriously, why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

[lavaliere]

To put it in a worse way, he can't afford to be evil again after what he did to his father.

The reason the killing of his father is considered so horrible is not because Suzaku killed him but because of the action, Suzaku essentially sold out Japan.

Giving Suzaku a benefit of the doubt would be like giving Lelouch the benefit of the doubt. The means to which both have achieved their ends could be considered terrible. Liking one better than the other because he seems "better" is ignorant, I think.

*sigh* And anyway, I did not say that I hated Suzaku. *points to comment here* I was only giving possible reasons for why some people might. There's a difference. I'm actually rather against character hate/bashing.

To put it simply, I understand that Suzaku is a bastard. Just like Lelouch is a bastard, Rolo's a bastard, Charles and V.V. are bastards... And so is just about half of the entire Code Geass cast. To not accept this would mean being blind to the entire Geass story thus far. Each character just has different reasons for being an ass, that's all.

[jusrecht.livejournal.com]

I think it will only be fair, yes, to give both of them the benefit of the doubt. It's just that Lelouch's character is pretty clear to me so far while I really don't know what I should think about Suzaku. He's... continually exceeding expectation is all I can say, in both the positive and negative sense.

Oh, sorry if I sounded like I was accusing you. I read the comment that you actually don't hate Suzaku and I responded to your comment because it was the one I wanted to respond to, not because I thought you were picking a fight ^^; I don't like character bashing either. It's a relief that this comm isn't as bad as some places out there..

LOL I agree with you, all of them are bastards. In fact, I think that's the reason why this series is interesting. None of them is a real white hero or a real black bad guy.