Mistake and group preferences?

[snm-queen.livejournal.com]

Was I the only one who thought that Shinsen & Ureshii sub for the Emperor's second line in episode 6 was a little off?
Didn't he say something along the lines of, "今クロヴィスと話した...急がなければな けかくご"? Basically, "I was talking to Clovis, we must speed up the plan(?). (I probably screwed up somewhere in both the Japanese sentence and the translation but I'm not claiming to be the purveyor of perfect Japanese. Oh, far from it. XD) But to translate that second part as, "He is on a beach now, at peace", can anyone see where that comes from? Or is this how they've always been, like, their level of translation? (Does that even make sense?) I've only watched episode 6 by them and I noticed some other little things but they weren't quite as odd as this and I always thought Shinsen was a good group so now I'm just curious.

Asking since I'm trying to burn stuff for a friend as part of a get-well present and I'd rather she not end up with odd subs. I personally watch RAWs & gg, since soft subs make taking caps for graphics easier, but the added notes are kind of annoying. So...thoughts?

EDIT: Too many comments, I give up. XD;; Just wanted to thank everyone for their input and I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed the mis-translation.

Comments

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched Shinsen. gg, though, has more mistakes than I care to count in the first three episodes alone. I mean, 'Jaiereven'? Second in line for the throne? Four is better. Five, didn't watch. Six? I'm still a little annoyed with how "He used to respect the wishes of the individual" turned to "He used to be more selfish", but I didn't watch the entire episode through in sub so I can't give a detailed commentary. But I think you're right on the first two lines. That's what it sounded like to me when I watched the RAW anyway. What did Shinsen translate it to?

Shinsen's always been a good group, imo, but I don't know how prepared/happy they are with Geass. Like someone was saying earlier, they didn't want to do it when the season started. (Understandable, from the Sunrise Mecha stigma. Bleh, they did the Hime/Otome series fine)

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Then don't watch Shinsen either, as various forum posts on asuki and gamefaq's of all places about their episode seven have found gg to be superior. The examples pointed out on the afforementioned forums I find much more serious than your issues with gg you've listed above (ie: they called the Ashford's the family of Lelouch's mother). And snm_queen said what SHS-Ureshii translated that line as: "He is on a beach now, at peace".

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

.............

What? A beach? (Sorry I didn't see that, btw. It seemed to have slipped through in speed reading)

Okay, you'd better stick with gg, then. Shinsen probably rushed the subs through high hells or didn't want to bother in general, the earmark of a bad translation. At least gg's mistakes seemed honest.

I guess I'll stick solely to RAWs, after all.

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

GG sub Garasu No Kantai when no one else did. That's why I will stay with them.

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Heh, well, tbh, I was biased to begin with since I am from gg. ._.;

Also, the game faqs thread if you're interested (http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000121&topic=32117479)... post by ookina talks about SHS-Ureshii stuff.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I STILL am not sure what the series is about, you know.

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Thanks for watching GaraKan. :D

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

...you know, I've subbed nearly all of it, and I can't tell you what the hell it's about.

- Sci-fi... but people breathe in space?
- Black hole in the universe that everything is being drawn towards
- Evil Emperor Guy voiced by Ishida Akira
- Random resistance trying to defeat said Emperor
- And Religion!

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

Ah, I am passionate about that show! I felt very lonely watching it last season as I only knew a few people who did, but now my persisitance is paying off and a few friends have started watching it too! :D I bought DVDs 4&5 (on presale) yesterday and was excited all day! \^-^/ I hope Code Geass's DVDs will eventyually be so shiny.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I see. Well, then, that was rude of me. ^^; (I freelance as a translator, and it's been my pet peeve for as long as I've read translated fiction) At least you guys translated it when nobody else bothered and didn't mention beaches. That's a plus.

*read*

....

It actually looked pretty horrid. Whoa, Shinsen. Did they really want to take this project when they took it? O_o

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Uh---UH. So. Was there a central goal in the plot? It looked...pretty odd from here.

Also, is it sad that I don't know my way around who seiyuus who at all?

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

:D! I made fun of GaraKan a lot at first, but it got pretty good around ep 7-8ish. Ralph is a bit of a pain in the side, but I dig Rachel. Speaking of the DVD's, did you hear about the DVD-only eps? D: I am curious about what DVD 17 will be, because 16 -> 17 seem to flow right into each other... ah well.

I hope the Geass DVD's are nice too. I want to order those, but ouch, one episode on DVD 1. >_>; I hope they're really 16:9. ><;;

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

It's about a lot of things. It's about political resistance and personal rivalry (like Code Geass). Basically, the Universe has a new Emperor, Vetti Sforza (in my icon, voiced by Akira Ishida), and a people's army rises up to oppose his Empire. They're very scattered and shabby, with a few aristocrats giving resources, but they're mostly just people. Then they meet a space pirate and in him and his incredible battleship of glass, they believe they have found the weapon they need. And it develops from there. :)

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Does it lean towards the thematic or the plot-astic? I mean---like, rag-tag Avalanche against the Shinra Corporation, or Paul Atreides against House Harkonnen? The choice either makes or breaks a rebellion plot, imo.

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I have to say there, one episode on a DVDis a bit 'ouch' considering Japanese DVDs are expensive anyway and importing them is also expensive. Garakan's DVDs are so nice they are worth it. They all come with an object (set of beautiful pin badges, a pendant - the first one had Kureo's harmonica!) and an Okama artbook of character and animation designs. Code Geass' first DVD doesn't make me jump up and down...I did hear about the DVD only stuff; that's what I like of a DVD!

I *adore* Rachel! She's so crazy! I think you could have made a whole show just out of her and Ralph fighting over Vetti (he's completely oblivious! lol)

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

Well the rebellion plot and the manouvers against it certainly drives the action, but I think it's more character driven than anything. It's like a drama between maybe six or seven of the main characters and their various obsessions with each other which plays out on a very big scale.

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

I agree with thomasvye; more character driven.

While the resistance v. empire is part of it, there is also a prophecy about the unification of the galaxy and a two headed eagle. The series kind of dwells on the meaning of the two headed eagle bit and the unification, fitting various characters into the "role" of the two headed eagle. Prophecy is more central to the plot, but the central "conflict scenes" and battles take place between the two fighting sides.

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Heh, no problem. I plan to relay errors people report for dvd re-releases anyway, so, you were being helpful. XD

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

sd;flkkld;sfl Rachel is awesome. *_* Did you watch episode 22 raw by any chance? <_<;;

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

The way I said it still wasn't nice. ^^; Thank you, though. (How many errors have been reported thus far, anyway? I do have your subs all downloaded though not necessarily watched since I hate MKVs. I can help spot mistakes if there's not already a steady stream of reports)

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I've been interested in it since you recced the thing a few weeks ago, but considering my internet is an ass. From the things you and rhyste said, though, I think I'll give it a try after I'm done with Black Lagoon.

And whenever this 8.5 torrent finishes. *kicks*

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

i've seen people talk about the 'beach' clovis was on XDDDDD and my friend who's watched the shinsen subs say they changed it to the power of "GEAS" T___T i think it's ureshi that's translating it, and Shinsen doing the other stuff... coz i doubt shinsen can link a beach with clovis DD:

personally, i think gg started off a bit bumpy, but they are going along fine now :) i like them coz they asked around for stuff they didn't know the name of, and hey, THEY STARTED SUBBING IT FIRST!

all hail rhyste and gg ^_____^

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

So it is a Star Wars-esque rebellion plot, plus George R.R. Martin-style prophecying, and---er, General Literature-obsession driven characters?

Odd hotchpotch. (Although I have a feeling I am going to love the Evil Emperor)

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

i think it's ureshi's fault about the translations :D

but since shinsen does everything, the translator might have just lost it XDD

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

I have seen right up to the end! XD