Mistake and group preferences?

[snm-queen.livejournal.com]

Was I the only one who thought that Shinsen & Ureshii sub for the Emperor's second line in episode 6 was a little off?
Didn't he say something along the lines of, "今クロヴィスと話した...急がなければな けかくご"? Basically, "I was talking to Clovis, we must speed up the plan(?). (I probably screwed up somewhere in both the Japanese sentence and the translation but I'm not claiming to be the purveyor of perfect Japanese. Oh, far from it. XD) But to translate that second part as, "He is on a beach now, at peace", can anyone see where that comes from? Or is this how they've always been, like, their level of translation? (Does that even make sense?) I've only watched episode 6 by them and I noticed some other little things but they weren't quite as odd as this and I always thought Shinsen was a good group so now I'm just curious.

Asking since I'm trying to burn stuff for a friend as part of a get-well present and I'd rather she not end up with odd subs. I personally watch RAWs & gg, since soft subs make taking caps for graphics easier, but the added notes are kind of annoying. So...thoughts?

EDIT: Too many comments, I give up. XD;; Just wanted to thank everyone for their input and I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed the mis-translation.

Comments

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched Shinsen. gg, though, has more mistakes than I care to count in the first three episodes alone. I mean, 'Jaiereven'? Second in line for the throne? Four is better. Five, didn't watch. Six? I'm still a little annoyed with how "He used to respect the wishes of the individual" turned to "He used to be more selfish", but I didn't watch the entire episode through in sub so I can't give a detailed commentary. But I think you're right on the first two lines. That's what it sounded like to me when I watched the RAW anyway. What did Shinsen translate it to?

Shinsen's always been a good group, imo, but I don't know how prepared/happy they are with Geass. Like someone was saying earlier, they didn't want to do it when the season started. (Understandable, from the Sunrise Mecha stigma. Bleh, they did the Hime/Otome series fine)

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Then don't watch Shinsen either, as various forum posts on asuki and gamefaq's of all places about their episode seven have found gg to be superior. The examples pointed out on the afforementioned forums I find much more serious than your issues with gg you've listed above (ie: they called the Ashford's the family of Lelouch's mother). And snm_queen said what SHS-Ureshii translated that line as: "He is on a beach now, at peace".

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

.............

What? A beach? (Sorry I didn't see that, btw. It seemed to have slipped through in speed reading)

Okay, you'd better stick with gg, then. Shinsen probably rushed the subs through high hells or didn't want to bother in general, the earmark of a bad translation. At least gg's mistakes seemed honest.

I guess I'll stick solely to RAWs, after all.

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

GG sub Garasu No Kantai when no one else did. That's why I will stay with them.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I STILL am not sure what the series is about, you know.

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Thanks for watching GaraKan. :D

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Heh, well, tbh, I was biased to begin with since I am from gg. ._.;

Also, the game faqs thread if you're interested (http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000121&topic=32117479)... post by ookina talks about SHS-Ureshii stuff.

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

I see. Well, then, that was rude of me. ^^; (I freelance as a translator, and it's been my pet peeve for as long as I've read translated fiction) At least you guys translated it when nobody else bothered and didn't mention beaches. That's a plus.

*read*

....

It actually looked pretty horrid. Whoa, Shinsen. Did they really want to take this project when they took it? O_o

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

i think it's ureshi's fault about the translations :D

but since shinsen does everything, the translator might have just lost it XDD

[verity-isle.livejournal.com]

Since I never watched anything by Ureshii....

Old adage of work : Don't take anything you're not prepared to. He could just went insane one day, though. Beach?

[snm-queen.livejournal.com]

Wow, so many comments. And I didn't know that about Shinsen...might explain a few things but I think I still prefer gg even though everyone's for Shinsen. XD; Thanks for your input!

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

i've seen people talk about the 'beach' clovis was on XDDDDD and my friend who's watched the shinsen subs say they changed it to the power of "GEAS" T___T i think it's ureshi that's translating it, and Shinsen doing the other stuff... coz i doubt shinsen can link a beach with clovis DD:

personally, i think gg started off a bit bumpy, but they are going along fine now :) i like them coz they asked around for stuff they didn't know the name of, and hey, THEY STARTED SUBBING IT FIRST!

all hail rhyste and gg ^_____^

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

He might be on a beach! A celestial heavenly beach, sunning himself and painting. :)

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

HAHHAHAHAHAH XDDDDDDD I WANT A BEACH IN HEAVEN!! SUNNY EVERY DAY! NEVER SUNBURNT!

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

So what color are his swim trunks? <_<

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

Probably with the Britannian crest!

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

PINK O____Ov

green or something >__>

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

...Pink with Britannia crests?

FANART, NOW!

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

Lol I'm still not sure about 1/2 of everyones names. XD I'm trying to come up with some more consistent subs before DVD 01 rolls around. x_X

[x-reggg.livejournal.com]

if you look back a couple of entries, someone posted scans of animage with the offical english names of all the main characters :)

[rhyste.livejournal.com]

...damn, is that where "Nunally" came from? o_o

[starlady38.livejournal.com]

i find that shinsen is consistently one of the best groups out there, and i wasn't that pleased with gg, starting with their decision to only release in mkv and going on to the subs themselves, which i thought were questionable in a few places. i haven't watched episode 6 yet, just their 5, but judging from the text you wrote above, it would mean something like "i talked to clovis today...if we don't hurry [kekkaku = rejection]." i would give people shinsen over just about any other group, really.

[snm-queen.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm not certain I heard the Emperor correctly so that whole sentence could be off but isn't rejection 却下? Wouldn't kekkaku be more like...to sustain a loss? Now I don't know where I got plan from but that's not what I really wanted to know anyways so moving on. XD; I don't know anymore, I would say Shinsen is a good group but I've seen better (not for this series though) although that could be because they're not doing this project by themselves. And then avis are larger than mkv while quality levels are about the same. But thank you for your input, it was much appreciated and I'll just mull over it for a while. ^^

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

if you have time, go through both groups.
gg's beginning episodes were pretty bad, but i guess shinsen made some mistakes in episode 7. shinsen's subs tend to read better.

anyway, you could always just pick the best episode from both groups to share with your friend.

[snm-queen.livejournal.com]

XD I don't think many people have time for that. Well, I shouldn't generalize, but as a college student with a part time job, I know I don't. However, when you say they read better, do you mean they translate things less literally? Like puns and irony are still left as is instead of...uh, translated funky or whatnot? Bad example and I'm still struggling to articulate the entirety of what I want to say but I hope that gets my point across. ;-;

I would if I had time to download everything and watch it all! Though I might end up doing that as a way to procrastinate anyways....thank you for you assistance, it was greatly appreciated~