I don't think that's Lelouch, guys. After all, I don't think he has the genes to grow a mustache.

It's pretty hard to tell, but I was watching it again and noticed that it looks like the driver's got a white one, even though it's pretty faint. This is the .mkv version of gg's subs, so it might just look that way, but until someone can see on a blu-ray or DVD, chances look pretty slim that's Lulu.
Shame, I was doodling him in what I can remember of the cart outfit today...
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:06 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] nanakibh.livejournal.com
I'm not entirely sure yet why people think he's the carriage driver.

There's really nothing to support it. I believe he's still alive (or at least like to hold onto that ambiguity that he might be) but I think every other theory is more likely. Even if he IS alive, I don't think they necessarily had to show him again, so...

Carriage guy. Why.

It's fun, sure. But why. :|
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:10 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliagraywords.livejournal.com
Can't really see the mustache in the pic, but you are right. It's not in his genes. Not even Charles or Odysseus could grow a mustache. >.>

I didn't believe it was Lulu when I first saw the animation. The little gif that is running around is disproven just by the fact the outfits are not the same if you compare it and the screencap there. And the guy ain't wearing a white mask. The camera never runs past his face, anyway. Etc etc etc.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kaine-maxwell.livejournal.com
Maybe he just bought one. or stole one.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] inulovinkit.livejournal.com
I thought it looked more like a piece of grass in his mouth. :/
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] angathol.livejournal.com
DON'T BE SILLY, CLEARLY HE'S WEARING A DISGUISE.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:15 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] charmingsponge.livejournal.com
Charles shaves. Lelouch could grow a bushy white one in a few year's time.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:23 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] chirigami.livejournal.com
I noticed that too, well at least something there. The fake gif had an interesting idea of it being a face mask thing. Could be a clever disguise with the aid of some white hair and glue - ala, wang fire. Or maybe he's munching on a bagel ~
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:26 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] corsette.livejournal.com
...Sure that's not just QUALITY? I don't blame animators for not giving someone who's on-screen for what, three seconds total and ABSOLUTELY PERFECT detail. Aside from that, it just looks like lighting.

I'm a fan of the Lelouch is dead plot...thing, but that's not enough to completely debunk the Utena-style twist thing deal.

My wording is horrid, I'm sorry. XD;
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:32 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] wing-goddessxxx.livejournal.com
i don't see the stache!
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gakupoid.livejournal.com
I thought it was just a super quality mouth.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:37 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] saverellawish.livejournal.com
I see no mustache :/

Its just a trick of the pixels.

I haven't watched the episode yet or for the last 2 weeks for that matter..., so just shoot me for not actually seeing this scene yet >_>;;
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:40 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] seikita.livejournal.com
It's not a moustache, is a straw he's biting. That and the clothes and light.

When you zoomed it too much, pixels will confuse you... So, don't be sad! ^^ That might still be him.

-Sei.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 20:45 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] rolololo.livejournal.com
My brain cannot comprehend the image of Lelouch with a 'stache.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 21:12 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] setsunator.livejournal.com
Clearly weed.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 21:16 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ceruleanghost.livejournal.com
I think it's a little toothpick, or something hick-like, like a grass stem.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 21:17 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] haphazard-mind.livejournal.com
Nah, that carriage guy isn't fabulous enough to be Lelouch. v__v
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 21:22 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] piggyhoho.livejournal.com
Not to mention he doesn't have boney shoulders. :D
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 22:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com
YES. THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I really don't want him to be alive. I love him and all, but it would make it all seem so cheap.
Date/Time: 2008-09-29 22:53 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] consequences.livejournal.com
it would be cheap. D8;
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 00:44 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] sora-morikawa.livejournal.com
Oh, you just killed my dream

XD
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 01:43 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] strike-x-slash.livejournal.com
White moustache~

O BBY, NOW CAN PEOPLE STOP SAYING LULU'S THE DRIVER?

C.C.'s been able to talk to the dead since S1, gaiz. Maybe she meant like, "Oh, you're dead so you're with your dead friends and family now."

Always telepathic telephoning Jupiter. Can she pay the long-distance fees?
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 03:04 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] leitao.livejournal.com
Just a quick (kinda unrelated) question about what I've been reading a lot on this comm. since yesterday: Why exactly does C.C. have to either be talking to the cart driver, or to Lelouch in C's World? Can't she just be doing the typical anime thing of speaking nostalgically to one long gone? For example, Ohgi does the exact same thing in regards to Naoto in the episode 25, as well.
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 03:24 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gacktsuki.livejournal.com
You know what, there's not point arguing because I'm pretty sure even the author doesn't know if Lelouch is dead or alive lol. That's just Sunrise's usual wtf-ness after all. They showed us some hints like the cart-driver's shoulder and CC talking to Lelouch, but did not confirm that Lelouch is alive. What do you think they doing? Here's the hint: if Lelouch is alive, some people might think the series is too cheesy; if he's dead, us fans will get angry. Sunrise is just trying to please all of us lol
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 04:28 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] furato.livejournal.com
LOL, you get that from QUALITY shot? XD When I saw that I see a straw in his mouth.
I counter you with
Image
and its black portion above the skin to indicate black hair at top left. The screencap that surfaced first shows 1-2 frames after, where we can't see the skin, so it looks more like a shadow, but this one with the skin can more plausibly be hair.
Sure cartman might or might not be Lulu since we only get nanocrumbs for information, but the ones who believe cartman=Lulu has that and C.C.'s gesture towards to front of the carriage. Doesn't matter anyway since the ending is obviously made so that fans can choose to believe what they want. (Unless they make it clear in DVD/Bluray.)
Date/Time: 2008-09-30 13:02 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] date-masamune69.livejournal.com
how cc can do an origami?

is nanally made it for her?

i'm pretty sure that lelouch is alive!

on the video i don't see any mustache!

plus the link you gave faye_naruse convince me more !
Date/Time: 2008-10-02 17:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fai208.livejournal.com
i thought that guy was lelouch 1st, thinking that being lelouch, he always has backup plans to save himself(and of course others). but it seems to me that his murder is real. and he already died by this scene. yes it hurts to see lelouch died. so, i just gonna stick to it and maybe change my mind when there is/are prove(by sunrise of course). we always want to think of about him being alive still, but at the end the truth had to be sink in.

oh the origami. i think cc learnt to make it when she met nunnally in the 1st season.

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