Hey geass land

[ylmik-wisty.livejournal.com]

Hi, so I'm a fan who was alerted to CG by my f-list spontaneously combusting over the ending. I was curious. So I watched the entire series (original AND R2) in 2 days. I don't even know. Eyes hurt like hell afterwards. Also Lelouche of course left me in a state of T_T afterwards which did not help me. Anyway, would you please explain to me this large subject:

What exactly is CC's relationship to Lelouche in regards to her knowing his parents? I really like CC&Lulu's relationship, so I'm curious to how that plot twist changes it. I mean, did CC stake out Lelouch because she knew his parents? Was she actually betraying him the whole time in a way because she knew about Charles' and Marrianne's plans and never told him? WTF. Because that throws a whole other dark wrench into their "partnership".

Enlighten me, you long time experienced fans. For this poor n00b who already spent 3 weekdays doing nothing but watching and looking for pictures of Code Geass and screwed over her homework/study time.

Comments

[kankiin.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the CG fandom! Goodness, that must have been some marathon @___@

According to a Season 1 Sound Episode, C.C. checked up on Lelouch and Suzaku in the first episode per request by Marianne; back when everyone thought that Marianne was as kind of a mother everyone said she was, we assumed it was because Marianne was worried about her children, though now we're not so sure. I don't think C.C. was ever staking out Lelouch; it seemed that all she wanted was a person to fulfill her wish, and it didn't matter who it was. It just happened to be Lelouch, since Marianne and Charles were using him to draw her out.

In a way, she was betraying him by not revealing his parents plans to him-she probably assumed them unimportant to Lelouch's goals, or perhaps didn't want to introduce them until the right moment. Then again, I'm not sure if it would have mattered much in the end, since Lelouch would have just done the same thing. The Lelouch and C.C. relationship is pretty dark and complicated, though I suppose that's one of its charms. I'm a fan of it too, so~

[eggy-egg.livejournal.com]

@_@ Wait, I thought they got sent to Japan after their mother died. Remember how Lelouch burst into the audience chamber and demanding why his father hadn't protected their mother?

[kei-natsu.livejournal.com]

Um, I'm not a prolonged fans too but...

the plan of Marianne's death had been foreseen by Charles and they sent the children to Japan to protect them. Of course there's enough time for Marianne to sent C.C. ... if I'm not mistaken. It's a twisted way of thinking and a twisted way of love too... *runs and hides*

[eggy-egg.livejournal.com]

D: Yes, twisted. But in the end, they basically abandoned Nunnally and Lelouch.

"Why didn't you stop Britannia attacking Japan?!"

;o; What twisted, twisted parents.

[kankiin.livejournal.com]

Marianne most likely contacted C.C. through the World of C after her death and asked her to occasionally check up on Lelouch and Nunnally.

[ylmik-wisty.livejournal.com]

Thanks! And yes, it was. -_- *idiot with no self control*

And thanks for responding, I am slowly piecing things together... (I would seriously rewatch key-episodes, but I'm afraid of screwing myself over on another spree. I have no self control whatsoever, even though that would be a dumb move.. D:)

What I am still a little puzzled about is why CC sided with Charles for an instant even though that would have been bad for Lelouch... because until the moment Lelouch called her back to him, her ultimate desire was just to die and Charles could offer it immediately to her? I can't even remember why Charles wanted CC so much... he was already pretty powerful with VV, why did he need CC?

Yes, I've inadverdently fallen in love with Lulu/CC (shameful since I seem to remember nothing about this section. Oh well, I am a fledgling fan...) so that's why I really wanted to sort this out so I can interpret their relationship correctly.

[kyandii-holic.livejournal.com]

Not related but... seeing how many new members joined, what about a CG friending meme? ^^

[summanaro.livejournal.com]

I'm down.

also, I watched season 1 in about that amount of time.

[familiarplaces.livejournal.com]

yes please...

i've actually been waiting for one

[9tailedtechie.livejournal.com]

If you really like Lulu-CC fandom that much here's a link to a different community

http://community.livejournal.com/lelouch_cc/

[rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com]

2 days, eh? And here, I thought my marathoning of S1 in 1.5 days was hardcore. XD

C.C. meeting Lelouch and granting him the geass in Stage 1 seems more or less coincidence. However, as kankiin said, C.C. had known about Lelouch (and Suzaku) previously and had actually briefly talked to Lelouch back when he was 10.

I think that she deliberately kept him in the dark for most of the series. She had in mind the singular goal to die, and I think she figured that if Lelouch knew how complex everything behind the scenes was, he would lose his way, and she would never be able to give the Code to him. Remember his two overt reasons for fighting Britannia--1) make a gentle world befitting Nunnally, and 2) find out the reason behind Marianne's death and avenge her. Imagine C.C. had told him the truth about Marianne up front. Half of his overt motivation would be wiped out.

As for the Ragnarok plan itself, I'm not sure it mattered too much in their relationship for her to feel like she was withholding something from him. It was the codes that mattered, and until Lelouch took her immortality, that was a matter between her and Charles and Marianne. Until then, Lelouch was just bait in the greater scheme of things, and she couldn't afford to have him waver from his path. And once he gets the code, well... Not her problem anymore. =P

Anyways, welcome to the obsessionfandom. =)

[ylmik-wisty.livejournal.com]

X'D When I pop I just can't stop. That marathon was SO bad for my health...

I know CC must have known that Lelouch and Nunnally were Marianne and Charles' children beforehand, but I wanted to figure out whether CC took a bullet for him because she knew who he was. Though having him be the one to rescue her was a coincidence, do you think she immediately recognized him?

Okay, trying to sort this out: so taking into accord that CC wanted to die more than anything, that is why for a moment she went to Charles so that he could kill her, even though him gaining more power would be detrimental to Lelouch's goals...? (okay, now I can't remember why Charles even wanted her. Wasn't he already immortal?)

Thanks~!

[snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com]

She must have immediately recognized him, because she said it, didn't she? "At last, you're here." Or something. After the accident when he went to go see if anyone was hurt...

[little-pierrot.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the fandom! Wow, that was one hell of a marathon... personally, I wouldn't recommend that course of action to anyone because CG has (had ;_;) some twists to plot that one should take one step at a time. Just to digest the information and form a personal idea. But I will give my two cents anyway...

Did CC stake out Lelouch because she knew his parents?

More or less, yes. Marianne told her about her son being a good candidate for the Geass, but the truth was she only wanted to give Charles the opportunity to find her. You see: Rebellious son with a mind controlling power causing havoc= LOL CC must be somewhere near there. Catch them! I'm also basing this in the fact that CC and Marianne must have talked, say when the former was still with Mao but wasn't able to tell Charles her location. Like a one way mirror, CC knew Marianne was disembodied somewhere, but Marianne couldn't tell if CC was in China, Australia or whatever.

Was she actually betraying him the whole time in a way because she knew about Charles' and Marrianne's plans and never told him?

Faster way out. Like a back-up plan. If she helped Lelouch accomplish his goals, maybe at the end he would've fulfilled his part of the deal. If he failed, there was still Charles. Although at the last minute I think she wasn't so sure about giving Lelouch her immortality, she knew how painful it was and she didn't want to impose that on Lelouch, so Charles was again the "safe" option. That and because Ragnarok wasn't such a bad plan and there would've been a lot of love-love in the humanity-tang.

Those are my theories o_o;

[snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com]

Welcome! I'm a (relatively) newcomer too (found and watched it around episode 20 of R2). But yeah. Welcome! =D

Heheh, I really don't know about CC. I've tried ordering it in my mind, and what I've arrived at is... she met Marianne, made the deal with her and Charles, and then disappeared for awhile... she found Mao during this time. They had happy times, until Marianne 'died' and realized she could speak to her from Anya's body... and called her back. Or maybe even never called her back, just telekinetically asked her to watch over Lelouch. Which CC did, until she got captured by Clovis's men... and then we all know what happened after that.

But in a way she was betraying Lelouch because... she did know his parents' plan all along. But she didn't care (or said she didn't) because all she wanted from him was for him to fulfill their contract.

She was actually kind of betraying Marianne and Charles AND Lelouch all at the same time because she helped Lelouch a lot... even though ultimately she was in on the Emperor's plans all along. She didn't really side with anyone, she just wanted someone to fulfill her wish.

I guess? I dunno.

I adore LuluCC. Their relationship is so... awesome.