About Rollo...

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

I have a question about Rollo.

You know how Lelouch's geass only works on a single person once. That severely limits his opportunities and options, especially if he comes across a situation where he already used it on someone. We don't know much about the Emperor's geass except that it can rearrange memories, so I was wondering if Rollo's geass has some price to pay.

He can temporarily stop time (the length he cannot control), but I feel that his geass alone is... still incredibly advantageous. Mao's geass went out of control and drove him crazy because he couldn't turn it off. I dunno, you'd think Rollo's would have some drawback to it. Right now it just doesn't feel fair. Not that it should be, but...

I guess he might be eternally stuck within a moment in time if it gets to that. Or maybe the time he freezes becomes increasingly shorter the more he uses it.

Waiting for weekly episodes is hard. *facepalm*

Comments

[angeline831.livejournal.com]

I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but consider that C.C. is the one who gave Geass to Lelouch and Mao. This, on the one hand, means we know a lot about their Geass and limitations, but I also think it may be a reflection of how powerful C.C. is. The fact that someone else (I'm guessing V.V., but there could of course be some plot twist ahead that I can't foresee) gave the Emperor and Rollo Geass might mean that theirs isn't subject to limitations (making it totally unfair). Similarly, it hasn't been shown that there's a limitation to the Emperor's Geass either, but that could just be because Charles doesn't want to look weak. It is an interesting thought to ponder, though.

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

Wow, I haven't considered C.C.'s personal strength. That's an interesting take on it. But I feel confident in that there will be some drawbacks to the geass. And yeah, the anime wouldn't want to reveal Charles' weaknesses this early in the season. This is going to be a long year.

[angeline831.livejournal.com]

Another thing to consider is the mental strength of the individual. C.C. may choose to make her "drawback" an actual limit on the power, but there is a possibility that V.V. or other unknowns can choose differently. Rollo and Charles aren't exactly the most stable people on the planet. What if their drawback is that Geass is making them more mentally unstable? After all, we do see Rollo's eagerness to knife people for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. However, it also seems unlikely that such a loose cannon would be doing such important work. ::shrugs:: Does their Geass draw its strength from their sanity? I can't say with any modicum of certainty, but that's also an interesting theory.

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

Ha, though Charles seems to be mentally capable enough to his subjects to run an entire empire. And I personally think Rollo was trained/raised that way (to be incredibly efficient and take every order literally to the word-- which, come to think of it, might also link with his attachment for family related things). And I don't think it's really the sanity that's being taken. It's more like they lack moral values. Though I won't say that they're not insane, nonono.

[angeline831.livejournal.com]

A capable system of underlings (including his children) could hide a lot. And Rollo should be listening to his superiors--there's efficiency, yes, but how efficient is a government if someone kills all the enforcers? Villetta does indicate a large body count they've had to hide, and I think this crosses line from efficiency to paranoia.

But then again, one of my pet theories is that Charles is grooming Lelouch to be his successor, so don't take me too seriously.

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

True, very true. As for Rollo, I don't think the government would use Rollo as much unless it's of absolute importance. The situation with Zero definitely merits that and maybe it's a risk they're willing to take with Rollo. It has the okay from the Emperor at least.

Aaah, I kind of think that too. This whole series is a conspiracy created by the Emperor. Which vaguely makes sense for the whole Marianne thing since she sent away the guards herself. Lelouch as the next emperor sort of tickles my fancy strangely enough.

[angeline831.livejournal.com]

My take on the Lelouch as emperor thing is pretty much thus:

I think Charles liked the fact that the kid had balls enough to stand up to him at such an early age, and went about seeing if Lelouch was ruthless enough to be the next leader. Charles believes in survival of the fittest, so he's not going to give up his throne to someone who doesn't fit his ideal. Therefore, we have the situation with the death of Marianne, and Lelouch's subsequent exile. Once it was revealed that Lelouch was alive (I think the Emperor's spy network could've handled at least that much, right? A person with daddy's eyes, and a blind girl in a wheelchair shows up, matching the tales of Lelouch and Nunnally from years ago, and no one notices? Come on now.), Charles watched him to see what he would do. Leading a rebellion gets the emperor stamp of approval--it's what daddy always wanted for his children. And his other children are being set up to die if they're too weak to face Lelouch--starting with Clovis. Getting caught, though, was a bad idea. But seriously--all Lelouch gets is a little memory-modding and sent back to school? Seriously? If I were Charles, I'd've set the leader of the rebellion up for a televised execution by my most trusted bodyguards as an example for what happens when someone dares resist absolute authority. It's another test. And Charles is holding Nunnally as bait, in a sense--Lelouch would kill for Nunnally (but not for many other people), and he's trying to engineer that Lelouch would have reason to off his siblings. ::shrugs:: That wasn't laid out properly, but the gist is there.

[chickee1.livejournal.com]

That's pretty much my theory too. Lelouch has the most leadership and will to bein charge than any of his siblings, Cornelia and Schneizel seem to wear authority as it is their duty, yet do not seek to be authoritive on their own. You see glimpses of them falling back on their underlings, although Schneizel does seem to have it best next to Lelouch.

I'm pretty sure Marianne is in on it, and to some extent C.c., as she talks to Marianne and I'm sure V.v. as well. Sunrise tells us the people she talks to are more than one, and we know V.v. was on the island spying on everyone when she was asking where Lelouch is.

[gatekeepers-21.livejournal.com]

Well... to clear things up, he doesn't exactly STOP time, if you watched episode 3 carefully, when he uses his geass in the underground water ravine (let's just call it that...)the water is still moving behind Viletta. It's more like he stops the perception of time of the people he uses the Geass on.

There probably is a consequence to his geass, or some limitations, we probably won't learn about it until later on - like Lelouch's. I feel it might have something to do with why he's paranoid about the locket, maybe time stops for him for a certain length of time while everything else moves forward, causing him to lose everything, which may be why he prizes his only possession dearly (locket).

My other theory is he's some crazy android/clone/test tube baby, so that's why he wants some family values!

Just my crazy two cents xD;

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

Oh, that makes sense. I didn't even realize that (though I should have seeing as how Viletta's eyes were red during the entire thing *smacks self*).

Lose everything? As in he's stuck within time long enough for everyone he was associated with to be dead? That makes sense. It would make him quite old though, in terms of the ongoing time. Yeah, his time with Lelouch as his younger brother would definitely be precious, especially since he probably is never allowed much freedom outside of assassination.

Well, he'd certainly be an adorable test tube baby. ♥ He grew on me, that darn yandere.

[gatekeepers-21.livejournal.com]

I guess it would kinda make sense huh ^^; Because he's kinda... hmmm I can't find the words... but he's very tough/evil which could be from experiencing years of seeing people betray each other and other evils. Maybe he's as old as C.C.!

His past is probably also significant since in the Newtype scans with the character designs there are pictures of young!Rollo.

We'll just have to wait and find out ^^

[tenshi789.livejournal.com]

You know I was wondering about that in the Knightmare-fighting part. I mean, considering that, it's incredibly less advantageous than we first thought.

Say when Urabe self destructed himself and Rollo used his Geass just a fraction of a second after Urabe pressed the button, then the explosion would occur anyway. If Kallen was charging towards him with Guren and he used Geass, Kallen would be frozen but Guren would still be charging towards him.

I think it's more than perception as well, he sort of freezes people. When Villetta was leaning forward, it was as if she was going to run towards him, if Rollo froze only her perception of time, she would still be moving forward even in the Geass bubble thing.

Or who knows, maybe he actually does stop time for everything in his Geass-bubble except for water??

He's reminding me a bit of Sai from Naruto xD

[kamuro-ishigami.livejournal.com]

His Wiki entry says that he has a certain range.. I'm not sure how right they are though..

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

That makes sense. Wikipedia usually is a reliable source when it's not being trolled.

[hylarn.livejournal.com]

Given the way he's used it, I'm guessing it has a cooldown period, and that the period of paralysis is fairly short (probably around 15 seconds). He also has a limited range, so he's going to be susceptible to snipers and the like.

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

Oh snap, snipers! I have not thought of that. And maybe Lelouch will take advantage of the cooldown period if what you say is true in the next episode (talking to stall for time of course).

[sapphirus.livejournal.com]

Someone totally tried to snipe him in ep 1 too. :< Oh Rolo...

[haunter]

LOOK WE MATCH :O

[kimchiburger.livejournal.com]

LET'S HAVE OUR APOLLOS PONDER OVER THINGS TOGETHER~!

[haunter]

*ponder*

[breepants.livejournal.com]

Objection!

Too much pondering!

[haunter]

Achtung, baby!

Pondering is a right all lawyers have!

[keelain.livejournal.com]

I wonder, if his geass mutated, if he'd just disappear...

like he'd be in a frozen time and no one would notice him

[nifty-nightmare.livejournal.com]

I was thinking about this today! and I do think he has to pay a price and I think that might just be his own time! ;) I think rollo can't age lmao it could be why he thinks so highly of birthdays.

[grandcross.livejournal.com]

what I think:

- his geass "stops" people within a specific range
- can be used an unlimited amount of times on anyone
- has a time limit; im guessing about 5 seconds
- has a cooldown period, probably at least 5 minutes
(note, if he didn't have either of the above two, stopping Lulu's plan to destroy the building would've been far too easy)

he's used it at least 5 times so far: 3 times during the battle in the building, one to kill that person in the underground parts of school, and one on Lulu. 5 times in 3 episodes alone. I wouldn't doubt his Geass will mutate very soon. I could only guess that it'll have lots of consequences after that.